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good evening counselors and members of

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the public council is conducting this

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ordinary meeting in person and Via video

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technical difficulties counselors during

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appreciated if you could please ensure

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speak and also to vote please councilors

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please give your attention to councelor

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Eva Campbell who will lead us in the

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prayer and acknowledgement of

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country almighty God bless all who are

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engaged in the work of local government

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make us of one heart and mind in thy

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service and in the true welfare of the

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people we seek to serve we ask this

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through Christ Our Lord

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amen I respectfully acknowledge that

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this meeting is being held on the

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traditional lands and waterways of the

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Dharawal people and also recognize

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neighboring Clan groups the Dharug and

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Gundungurra people I pay our respects to

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Elders past and present for their

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kinship with country their spirituality

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and their stories and seek to share

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their knowledge and care of our

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environment and evolving National

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culture thank you counselor webcasting

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Government Act 1993 this meeting is

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this meeting I remind those that are

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manner can be asked by the chairperson

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to leave the

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meeting councilors we've received advice

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from councelor Paul faroh that he would

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be absent this evening do I have oh

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looks like everyone else is here  can

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I ask for a move and second to please

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move to councelor Campbell second to

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councelor

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domaru  are there any speakers no

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we're all good  those in favor of

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granting leave of absence unanimous

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thank you

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 we have no audio visual links this

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evening do we have any Declarations of

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Interest

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counselors nope all

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righty we have no speakers this

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evening confirmation of minutes the

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recommendation  is on page 13 that the

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minutes of the local traffic committee

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meeting held on the 12th of December

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2023 and the ordinary council meeting

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held held on the 12th of December 2023

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copies of which have been circulated and

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confirmed be adopted  do I have a move

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on seconder please move councelor

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mlan sure  thanks Madam man the just a

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question on the minutes for the local

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traffic committee from the 12th of

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December there there's an item in there

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 in relation to  m arur Road LTC 10

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and I notic we've had some information

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and a briefing on it  later tonight so

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is does do those two points interact and

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are we approving minutes that are taking

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place for works that are going to be

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undertaken that is contradictory

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contradictory to what we're discussing

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 or is it totally sort of separate

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general

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manager counselor  I could  direct

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this to director Community assets but we

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may not have the detail of the exact

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item that was discussed at that traffic

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committee meeting  but we're happy to

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elaborate at the briefing session which

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will be separate on on things that we

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need to consider in that process  but

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I wouldn't think there's an issue with

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resolving the minutes of the traffic

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committee meeting

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okay  the the other question I had was

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just in relation to the obviously a

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number of the events in the last traffic

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committee were over Christmas Australia

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Day all of those different  events

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that took place which is great  but

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was did were they approved by Council be

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by an authorizing officer or is what's

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the sort of governance process there

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because normally Council approves the

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minutes do they are they approved by the

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Govern an authorizing officer or

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delegation or something

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general manager the director Community

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assets through you  Mr general manager

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 those are approved plans that are

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from like a traffic management company

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so they're put together and they're very

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similar to the ones that are approved

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every year so  they're approved

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they're actually endorsed by the local

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traffic

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committee all right so I'll now ask for

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a move on second to that the minutes of

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both the council meeting and the local

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traffic committee meeting be  be

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confirmed and adopted moved counselor

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Kagney second counselor F Deli councilor

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Kagney nothing thank you m are there any

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speakers for the recommendation against

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the recommendation all those in

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favor unanimous thank

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you  councilors we have two meral

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minutes this evening the first is the

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Australia Day 2024 Award winners on

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Friday the 26th of January the community

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came together for the 2024 Australia Day

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Celebrations the much loved Matha Line

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Street parade attracted a crowd of about

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2,000 people a big thank you to the

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MacArthur lines for another successful

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celebration it was fantastic to see the

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community come together to reflect and

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respect Council also held its first

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citizenship of the year  for the year

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sorry  which saw more than 90

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residents pledge their commitment to our

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great country and become Australian

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citizens they have my wholehearted

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congratulations for taking the exciting

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steps and choosing Camden to officially

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begin their lives as

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Australians at the ceremony we did we

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also had the pleasure of hearing from

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the austral day Ambassador am Amar Hadid

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Miss Hadid became the first person in

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the world to receive a scholarship for

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skateboarding in 2017 thanks to the

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University of Sydney's Elite athlete

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program on the skateboarding  on the

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skateboard her determination diligence

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and talent have seen her bazle the

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skateboarding world at competitions

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across Australia and in the US China

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Brazil and Sweden off the skateboard the

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proud Lebanese Australian Muslim woman

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is a passionate Advocate advocate for

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the quality equality of men and women in

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sport the promotion of skateboarding and

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Community cohesion we're incredibly

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grateful to have had Miss Hadid join us

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as our ambassador for this year I'd also

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like to take this opportunity to

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formally congratulate the winners of

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council's 2024 Australia Day Awards

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Denise Pritchard took home the Camden

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citizen of the Year award Miss Pritchard

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has been a member of the Camden W Dilly

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domestic violence committee for over 10

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years remaining proactive in its

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projects she was also heavily involved

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in setting up the blue ranous camton

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women shelter where she's on the board

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as its

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chair briy Meredith  is a wonderful

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young inspiring teacher at the Katherine

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Park fizzy and dance and was named

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Camden's a young citizen of the Year

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briy teaches five classes three days a

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week in her own time and supports club

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members who have social intellectual and

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behavioral needs Beverly butros and Gary

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Clark both took home the sports

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achievements Awards Miss butus has 

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been a member of the netball Club Ben

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Kenny since its Inception in

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1984 Miss butus began the club as a

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player before she coached for 16 years

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offering countless hours for her time

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and her time of her time to develop the

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club's Rising Stars Mr Clark is a member

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of the Eventing equestri ad committee

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where he volunteers as a club Treasurer

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to help ensure that the events held at

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the camton bis sentenal Equestrian Park

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are always a

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success the Campton West fire rural fire

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station won the community group award

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the Brigade has made significant

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contributions to the local community

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throughout their TI efforts as a team of

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volunteers that respond to bush fires

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structure fires alarms car accidents

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back burning fire prevention storms

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floods searches calls for assistance and

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more they have an unwavering dedication

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to Camden and its surrounds responding

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to emergencies 24 hours a day 7 days a

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week taking out the Arts and Cultural

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award was local artist Patricia Johnson

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Miss Johnson has inspired and mentored

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many any artists in our local community

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and I'd like to thank her for dedicating

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so much time to sharing her talent and

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enriching our local art scene it was an

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absolute pleasure to shine a spotlight

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on these fantastic people in the Camden

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Community as part of our Australia Day

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Celebrations I truly believe Canden is

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an amazing place it is because of their

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 certainly because of their tiess

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efforts and their dedication to have to

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helping those around them a big

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congratul ations goes to everyone also

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who was nominated who also work

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tirelessly and who make our lives and

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those around them so much better the

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recommendation is that the information

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be noted  would anyone like to speak

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to the mar minute councilor Campbell 

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very briefly I'd like to congratulate

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all the nominees  and those who took

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out the awards and I think it's worthy

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of mention that Miss Denise Pritchard is

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a former employee of this Council and

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indeed Beverly batross is a former

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counselor from 1995 to

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2004 thank you councelor are there any

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other councilors that would like to

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speak to the Marl minute Council mlan

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you got your speaker on do you want to

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speak sorry nope anyone else with that I

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put the meril minute forward all those

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in

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favor unanimous thank you our second

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Merl minute this

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evening is cost  cost shifting

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I'd like to take this opportunity to

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talk about the issue of cost shifting

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which is affecting all councils in the

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state cost shifting occurs when state

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and federal governments Force councils

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to assume responsibility for

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infrastructure services and Regulatory

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functions without providing sufficient

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supporting funding it means the pressure

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on us to continue to provide services

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that are appropriate and of high quality

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to our residents is now

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extraordinary cost shifting has been an

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ongoing issue for many years now and has

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been accelerated by the various New

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South Wales government policies I've

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been contacted by the local government

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New South Wales by local government New

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South Wales who have commissioned an

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investigation into this matter through

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independent Consultants LG New South

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Wales have determined that in the

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2021-22 2022 Financial year an amount of

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one $11.36 billion of expense has been

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passed on to councils to fund this is an

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increase of approximately four $540

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million since 2017 2018 Financial year

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what this has meant for our community

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here in Camden is that close to $5.3

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million was paid directly to the New

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South Wales government in the 2021-22

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financial year which otherwise would

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have been spent on providing much needed

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local services and Facilities to our

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growing Community these direct costs

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relate to charges such such as the

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Metropolitan waste Levy Emergency

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Services Levy contribution and services

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which have traditionally been funded by

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the state government many of which our

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community wouldn't necessarily be aware

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of council has no control over these

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costs as highlighted by the recent

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significant increase in the emergency

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services Levy contribution by over $1

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million in the 2022 2023 Financial year

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importantly these amounts are not oneof

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and are cost councils must factor into

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its Budget on an annual basis these

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increases are sorry these increases and

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diverted costs are not optional and

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simply saying no is also just not an

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option the cost shifting represents loss

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Services loss opportunities and loss

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amenity for all of our residents and

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businesses it means our communities get

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less or go without because councils are

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compelled to channel money elsewhere

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communities across the state including

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here in Camden deserve better LG New

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South Wales is seeking the support of

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local councils in the state in calling

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on the New South Wales government to

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address cost shifting onto our sector

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and I believe it's important that we

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seek to address this issue urgently as

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such I'm writing I'm seeking council's

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support to write to the premier and the

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new southwales Treasurer and the new

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southwes Min Minister for local

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government asking that we urgently

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address cost shifting through a

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combination of regulatory form budgetary

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provision and appropriate

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funding councilors the recommendation 

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is that we write to the premier as noted

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the treasurer as well as the LG 

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Minister and that we note the

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information in the report do I have any

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speakers on this marrow minute councelor

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Campbell no sorry it's

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self-explanatory councelor McLean

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 yeah thank you Madame May I'm very

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strongly in favor of  this motion oh

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sorry May minute and it is a really

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really massive issue and I certainly

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commend  the campaign that local

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government New South Wales has been

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putting together and well I'd be

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confident that pretty much every other

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Council will equally support it  I

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think yeah there's a key point in the

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minute that says many of which  our

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community wouldn't be aware of and I

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guess this is a real underlying issue

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which we have to also communicate

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because there are it's actually quite a

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long list of services that Camden

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generously provides  to the

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communities  which have been passed

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down over year after year after year and

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it's just a slowly sort of  downhill

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Slide the so I'm I'm I've spoken to

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staff about this but I've I've I'm told

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that they're going to list the exact

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items and costs of a number of these

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points the the waste Levy is certainly

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one and of course it's not something we

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can  unfortunately avoid but the waste

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Lev is another example very very similar

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 we we also have you know some amazing

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seniors programs which are all 

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generously funded and supported by

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Council and are really really really

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vital

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Services  and there's there's a

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preventative

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 outcome that's delivered there as

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well through linking  seniors up with

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Allied health professionals through 

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getting them in touch with the right

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contacts   reducing loneliness for

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example a whole host of other benefits

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that actually has a a preventative cost

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which both state and federal government

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 benefit from  and and similarly

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there's other examples like some of the

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youth programs as well that Council

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operates and

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like I said a long list of other things

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so I'd really like to see that also I

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guess I guess kind of itemized in our

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Communications to government  to

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really list and put on the record what

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that is  and what benefit it has to

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community  I also saw another Council

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the other day  put this in terms of a

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dollar cost per resident  and they

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they worked out that it was X number of

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$100 of cost shifting per person which

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therefore meant that they were not able

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to be spending that $23 $400 per

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resident  on other services vital

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services so that's another way to I

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guess communicate that more succinctly

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 and of course let our community know

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that there's a long list of additional

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benefits and services that  that their

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local Council provides to them thank you

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thank you councelor mlan are there any

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other speakers for the Merl minute

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councelor Kagney  thank you mayor will

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be brief  I'm mindful that  the

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current government has been in office

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less than a year but I think so it's

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very timely now as  things are moving

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into the next  section of their tenure

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that councils across the new South WS do

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bring these issues to their attention

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I'm sure they've had a lot of things

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that have been much more important but

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as things are settling  we've known

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the impact of this for probably 15 years

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over time and especially the last 5 to

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10 years has been been quite extreme

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it's probably  more highlighted in our

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Council because of the growth that we

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see that we need more funding especially

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for older areas and programs that our

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new developments  don't have

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contributions for or developers that are

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providing a lot of infrastructure as

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well as donations to programs so I think

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it's great and I'm hoping that once they

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have a look at this and look at the

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numbers because at the end of the day

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hard data speaks very loudly and the

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difference in what our funding would

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have been when we had a smaller number

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of people living here to what it is now

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I think it'll be quite obvious and I'm

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hoping that they'll be able to go down a

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similar track to the federal government

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and whilst they haven't been in office

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for a whole term yet  at last year's

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General assem National General Assembly

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that we some of us were able to attend

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 the way that they've gone out of

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their way to engage with councils to

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have that feedback that was the first

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National General Assembly we've had for

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many years so the government's actually

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initiating that contact and through

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Federal programs  and growth centers

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programs so  they've seen that y

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that's something really important and

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local government's very much on their

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radar and so hoping that  our new

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state government  is able to have a

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look at the Hard data and look out when

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it comes I know budgets are budgets and

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they're very difficult but at the end of

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the day  when we're talking about cost

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of living this is where another impact

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comes you know we had the Emergency

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Services Levy which is what another

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million dollars that we have to pay as a

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levy that we didn't have to pay two

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years ago and that's a million on top of

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what we used to pay so of course that's

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going to impact on what council can

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spend and that's just one little tip of

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the iceberg so similar to  Council

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mlan it'll be interesting for us to

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drill down and have a look at you know

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where those things are and  yeah

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hopefully just bring it to their

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attention they can 

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have a look at it and make some changes

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thank you thank you counselor are there

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any other speakers for the Merl minute

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against the Merl

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minute or with that I put the Merl

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minute forward all those in favor

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unanimous thank you onto item one draft

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submission Western Sydney International

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Nancy bird Walton airport environmental

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impact statement the recommendation is

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on page 26 do I have a move and seconder

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please moved councelor mlan second

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councelor FID Deli councelor

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mlan  thank you Madame May you're very

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happy to 

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support this  motion it's something

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obviously we've been briefed on and  I

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I  fully support the recommendation 

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and equally it would be important to

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think the the  huge amount of work and

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effort and time that staff would put

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into the I guess very very detailed 

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submission that's been put forward 

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which is really really does highlight 

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a significant number of weaknesses in

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the environmental impact statement so I

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I do I'm pleased that it's going to be

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shared  publicly  and with all of

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our different local and federal 

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elected members because it's important

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that they know that there are absolutely

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some  some massive gaps and weaknesses

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 in the current  Eis which is before

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us  and there's plenty of improve mov

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ments that need to be made to ensure 

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public health and

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safety  the other point I wanted to

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make as well was just around the

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communications and I understand that

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there's a Communications plan in place

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to to look at  providing this

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information in sort of Key summary and

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and key points for the community  no

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one wants to read a huge long submission

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well some people do which is great

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others just want a little snapshot and

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it's really important that we provide

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some of those key risks  and key

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impacts that  our local community

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might face so  I'm told that that's

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through our our general  well through

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media releases and our  our our

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different Council communication channels

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social media and so on and so forth so

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that's fantastic to see as well I think

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it's very very important thank you are

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there any speakers for the

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recommendation councilor Kagney  thank

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you mayor again I will be brief yes

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happy to endorse the recommendation

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 support the submission going forward

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and also thank the staff for all the

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work that went into that submission and

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the extensive briefing that we've been

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able to have and similar to councilor

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mlan I think it's really important that

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we actually communicate to our community

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what our submission is  there'll be

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business people that will be interested

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in that there'll be students that will

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be interested in that  and I'm for all

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for executive summaries but I'm also

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person that likes to read lots of

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reports so I think the fact that we can

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advertise that it's there on our website

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for people to have a look at will be 

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I think we'll have a lot more interest

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than what we maybe thought in the

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beginning because there's going to be a

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lot of conversation and discourse about

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 this airport and people in Camden at

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least I think it will be good for them

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to see what we've submitted on their

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behalf of what we consider we see as the

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concerning areas thank

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you are there any other speakers for the

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recommendation councilor

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fidelli  thank you Madame mayor  I

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also would be definitely supporting this

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recommendation I'd like to thank Miss

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mcgarran and her team and the officers

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that were involved  a lot of work has

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gone into this report even though  you

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asked for an extension because it was

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over Christmas so big congratulations to

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you all for getting this done because

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you thoroughly  gave us a great

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briefing on the night and it's for the

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benefit  of our community and also an

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agreeance with councelor Kagney and

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councelor M Clan

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it is  good that we're going to get it

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out there to the public if we can to see

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what the staff and councelors do here

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thanks thank you councelor are there any

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other speakers for the recommendation

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councelor

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Campbell thank you  I'm just sorry

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that the staff had to put in this huge

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amount of effort because this draft

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document is

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massive and like previous environmental

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impact statements on the bad Creek

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airport option it's a grossly flawed

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accept 

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assessment and my fear is that despite

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all our concerns legitimate concerns and

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all our effort that we're going to be

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ignored as we were 25 30 years ago we're

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looking at flight paths over open space

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which is no longer open space it's

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people's homes a 24 4 S

00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.279
operation Long Hall Jets disturb your

00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:37.640
sleep they wake you up I witnessed that

00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:40.375
recently in Brisbane which has a 24/7

00:25:40.399 --> 00:25:43.399
airport operation  not even directly

00:25:43.520 --> 00:25:46.296
under the flight path but you were woken

00:25:46.320 --> 00:25:49.096
your sleep was broken and it certainly

00:25:49.120 --> 00:25:51.336
rattled the items in the china cabinet

00:25:51.360 --> 00:25:54.360
as well as the Jets passed overhead and

00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:56.895
Freight arriving lots of freight

00:25:56.919 --> 00:25:58.655
arriving in in the middle of the night

00:25:58.679 --> 00:26:01.679
is not an acceptable impact on residents

00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:04.496
either we're looking at noise levels

00:26:04.520 --> 00:26:07.520
that are above United Nation standards

00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:09.135
from Runway

00:26:09.159 --> 00:26:12.159
one on day one of the operation of that

00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:16.000
airport and that's simply not acceptable

00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:19.200
there's been no proper consideration of

00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:21.775
air quality it's already at an

00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:24.799
unacceptable level contributing major

00:26:24.919 --> 00:26:27.096
health risks in because of the Camden

00:26:27.120 --> 00:26:28.336
basin

00:26:28.360 --> 00:26:30.856
and the impacts that this airport will

00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.056
produce will further decrease air

00:26:33.080 --> 00:26:35.736
quality not only here but across the

00:26:35.760 --> 00:26:38.760
entire Sydney airspace because given the

00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.000
prevailing wind patterns the air

00:26:42.159 --> 00:26:45.096
circulates down the Hawk sprin aan River

00:26:45.120 --> 00:26:48.096
system out to sea and the winds blow it

00:26:48.120 --> 00:26:50.096
back over the city again so it goes

00:26:50.120 --> 00:26:52.856
round and round like a Mixmaster and the

00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:55.856
air quality decreases on every

00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:58.375
circulation now this was brought to our

00:26:58.399 --> 00:27:01.399
attention in 1990 by the Hy and Johnson

00:27:01.760 --> 00:27:03.375
air quality study the people who

00:27:03.399 --> 00:27:05.936
identified the Camden Basin they

00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:08.960
established that the problem exists an

00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:12.039
ongoing development since 1990 across

00:27:12.760 --> 00:27:15.296
greater Western Sydney has subsequently

00:27:15.320 --> 00:27:17.976
already exacerbated that known air

00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.000
quality problem so the Nancy bird Walton

00:27:21.360 --> 00:27:24.255
airport will seal This

00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:27.176
Disaster for future residents of this

00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:29.375
area

00:27:29.399 --> 00:27:31.336
I acknowledge all the effort that the

00:27:31.360 --> 00:27:33.856
staff's put in to this submission and

00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:36.416
the ones that have gone in previously I

00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:39.176
acknowledge Camden council's stance from

00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:42.200
1996 and work done by previous counselor

00:27:42.360 --> 00:27:45.360
colleagues and former staff and the

00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.519
community and the grave consequences of

00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:51.816
this appalling decision  have

00:27:51.840 --> 00:27:53.296
basically not been

00:27:53.320 --> 00:27:56.320
addressed what we're looking at here is

00:27:57.559 --> 00:27:59.736
an economic argument which is

00:27:59.760 --> 00:28:02.456
idiotic party political

00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:05.480
misjudgment developer stupidity that's

00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:08.519
founded basically on Greed and these

00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.799
three things have combined like foul air

00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:14.960
quality to destroy the future health and

00:28:15.159 --> 00:28:17.576
the future well-being and the future

00:28:17.600 --> 00:28:20.576
safety of the residents of the Camden

00:28:20.600 --> 00:28:23.600
LGA I know we need to do this but I

00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:25.736
think we're on a loss to nothing you

00:28:25.760 --> 00:28:27.775
wouldn't want to put money on the fact

00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:30.696
that anything is going to be listened

00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.135
to thank you counselor are there any

00:28:33.159 --> 00:28:35.936
other speakers for the recommendation

00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:38.216
against the recommendation do we have

00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:39.296
any

00:28:39.320 --> 00:28:40.936
questions with that I put the

00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:42.895
recommendation forward all those in

00:28:42.919 --> 00:28:45.919
favor unanimous thank you on to item two

00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.015
acceptance of grant funding new southwes

00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:52.039
flood plane Management program amend

00:28:52.840 --> 00:28:55.840
addendum Dum yes to NP River flood plane

00:28:57.399 --> 00:28:59.015
risk management plan to support

00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:01.775
emergency emergency management planning

00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:03.895
the recommendation is on that's a that's

00:29:03.919 --> 00:29:06.255
a mouthful the recommendation is on page

00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:08.696
29 do I have a move and seconder please

00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:10.696
moveed to counselor Campbell seconded

00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:13.655
counselor fidelli thank you councelor

00:29:13.679 --> 00:29:16.096
Campbell I guess I have to say that all

00:29:16.120 --> 00:29:19.120
funding is basically acceptable and

00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.616
we're in a scenario where I don't think

00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.576
that we have the necessary plans on

00:29:25.600 --> 00:29:27.856
paper particularly for

00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:30.456
evacuations  and safe passage out of

00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:32.416
flood affected dangerous flood affected

00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:35.440
areas this is going to help with that 

00:29:35.840 --> 00:29:38.816
a rational approach and decision though

00:29:38.840 --> 00:29:40.775
would be to not allow development on the

00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:43.799
flood plane at all and that actually

00:29:44.159 --> 00:29:46.976
doesn't cost us anything beyond

00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.000
activation keyw of a few brain cells and

00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:52.336
a dose of Common

00:29:52.360 --> 00:29:54.576
Sense thank you councelor are there any

00:29:54.600 --> 00:29:56.736
speakers for the recommendation against

00:29:56.760 --> 00:29:58.255
the recommendation

00:29:58.279 --> 00:29:59.576
do we have any

00:29:59.600 --> 00:30:01.176
questions with that I put the

00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:02.856
recommendation forward all those in

00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:05.880
favor unanimous thank you on to item

00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:08.336
three acceptance of grant funding New

00:30:08.360 --> 00:30:10.176
South Wales government seniors Festival

00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:13.200
grants program seniors Talent time 2024

00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.056
the recommendation is on page 31 do I

00:30:16.080 --> 00:30:17.976
have a mve and seconder please moved

00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:21.000
councelor  mlan seconded councelor

00:30:21.159 --> 00:30:23.296
domaru councilor

00:30:23.320 --> 00:30:26.096
McLean  thanks Madame may always happy

00:30:26.120 --> 00:30:28.495
to support these  wonderful projects

00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:30.816
and it's good to see a small amount of

00:30:30.840 --> 00:30:32.655
grant funding to support that as well

00:30:32.679 --> 00:30:34.736
and  being on the senior's reference

00:30:34.760 --> 00:30:37.616
group it you can you you can directly

00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:39.296
see the benefit that this makes to the

00:30:39.320 --> 00:30:41.495
local community so it's  always

00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:44.519
pleasing to see and  hopefully 

00:30:44.840 --> 00:30:46.375
hopefully we might even be able to get

00:30:46.399 --> 00:30:48.816
out there and  see it in action thank

00:30:48.840 --> 00:30:51.296
you are there any speakers for the

00:30:51.320 --> 00:30:53.096
recommendation against the

00:30:53.120 --> 00:30:56.015
recommendation any questions with that I

00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:57.535
put the recommendation forward all those

00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:00.559
in favor unanimous thank you on to item

00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:03.296
four acceptance of grant funding youth

00:31:03.320 --> 00:31:05.135
South Wales government youth week

00:31:05.159 --> 00:31:07.895
programs 2024 the recommendation is on

00:31:07.919 --> 00:31:10.176
page 33 do I have a mover and seconder

00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.176
please moved councilor fidelli seconded

00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:15.736
councelor Kagney councelor fidelli 

00:31:15.760 --> 00:31:17.096
thank you always happy to support

00:31:17.120 --> 00:31:19.535
Grandin funding thanks do we have any

00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:21.816
speakers for the recommendation against

00:31:21.840 --> 00:31:24.840
the recommendation any questions with

00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:26.416
that I put the recommendation forward

00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:28.416
all those in favor

00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:31.440
unanimous thank you on to item five

00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:33.856
acceptance of gr funding female friendly

00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:35.856
Community sport facilities and lighting

00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:37.895
upgrades grant program the

00:31:37.919 --> 00:31:40.216
recommendation is on page 35 do I have a

00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.615
move and seconder please move to

00:31:42.639 --> 00:31:44.895
counselor Kagney second at councilor zit

00:31:44.919 --> 00:31:45.936
councelor

00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.135
Kagney  thank you may I'm happy to

00:31:48.159 --> 00:31:50.936
support the recommendation  we had a

00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.816
look at Draft plans a few weeks back so

00:31:53.840 --> 00:31:56.495
I've lost track of time  looking at

00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:57.856
the upgrad

00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.375
and also  doesn't need to be a point

00:32:00.399 --> 00:32:03.216
of recommendation but I'd like to 

00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:06.240
give out a huge thank you to the  Club

00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:08.495
official at the Camden Rams the

00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:11.519
volunteers the club members  like many

00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:14.615
of our community sporting groups they've

00:32:14.639 --> 00:32:17.639
fundraised for many years  and often

00:32:18.399 --> 00:32:20.375
you know their grants will be of that

00:32:20.399 --> 00:32:22.895
dollar for dooll or  they're applying

00:32:22.919 --> 00:32:24.576
for Grants all of the time and the fact

00:32:24.600 --> 00:32:25.736
that they actually do a lot of

00:32:25.760 --> 00:32:28.535
fundraising  a lot of their venue has

00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.559
been  you know worked with Council and

00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:34.655
their contributions and any of us that

00:32:34.679 --> 00:32:36.495
are involved in especially Community

00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:38.176
sport ourselves or with our children

00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.416
know that  you know we do have an

00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.336
incredibly generous community and you

00:32:42.360 --> 00:32:45.096
forever actually needing those finances

00:32:45.120 --> 00:32:47.696
to be able to do even the most simple of

00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:49.775
work around those grounds so just wanted

00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:51.696
to say a huge thank you to all of the

00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:53.375
people within the clubs that have done

00:32:53.399 --> 00:32:56.336
tireless fundraising over many years 

00:32:56.360 --> 00:32:58.936
and seen that facility grow and flourish

00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.615
into an amazing place to be an amazing

00:33:01.639 --> 00:33:03.056
place especially for our younger people

00:33:03.080 --> 00:33:05.615
to play sport thank

00:33:05.639 --> 00:33:08.176
you thank you councelor Kagney are there

00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.495
any speakers for the recommendation

00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:12.375
against the recommendation do we have

00:33:12.399 --> 00:33:14.696
any questions with that I put the

00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:16.416
recommendation forward all those in

00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:19.015
favor unanimous thank

00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.039
you item six delegations to the mayor

00:33:22.600 --> 00:33:24.655
Christmas New Year recess period the

00:33:24.679 --> 00:33:27.015
recommendation is on page 37 do I have a

00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:28.495
move on second

00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:30.976
please moved councelor Kagney second

00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:32.856
councelor F Deli councelor

00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.336
Kagney  thank you mayor nothing to add

00:33:35.360 --> 00:33:37.375
just support the recommendation thank

00:33:37.399 --> 00:33:39.056
you thank you councelor are there any

00:33:39.080 --> 00:33:41.456
speakers for the recommendation against

00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:44.096
the recommendation do we have any

00:33:44.120 --> 00:33:45.736
questions with that I put the

00:33:45.760 --> 00:33:47.135
recommendation forward all those in

00:33:47.159 --> 00:33:50.159
favor unanimous thank you item seven

00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:54.200
December review of the 2023 2024 budget

00:33:55.080 --> 00:33:57.216
the recommendation is on page 46 do I

00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:59.416
have a move and seconder please moveed

00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.696
to councelor fidelli seconded councelor

00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:03.856
Kagney councelor fidelli I'm thank you

00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:05.655
happy to support the recommendation

00:34:05.679 --> 00:34:07.895
thank you are there any speakers for the

00:34:07.919 --> 00:34:09.815
recommendation against the

00:34:09.839 --> 00:34:12.055
recommendation do we have any

00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:13.696
questions with that I put the

00:34:13.720 --> 00:34:15.815
recommendation forward all those in

00:34:15.839 --> 00:34:18.655
favor unanimous thank

00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.679
you item eight tender T1 of 2023

00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:25.416
development contributions management

00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:27.776
system the recommendation is on page 48

00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:29.776
do I have a move and seconder please

00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:31.496
move to councilor zamit seconded

00:34:31.520 --> 00:34:34.520
councelor Campbell councilor

00:34:35.399 --> 00:34:38.135
zamit happy to support but do have some

00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.159
questions yeah of course  did you want

00:34:41.240 --> 00:34:44.240
to do it now that works sure  so good

00:34:45.359 --> 00:34:47.375
to see that  you know council's

00:34:47.399 --> 00:34:50.399
embracing some  technology  just

00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:52.895
have a a question it's quite a 

00:34:52.919 --> 00:34:55.919
significant outlay do we have a a return

00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:57.776
on investment mod model on that it seems

00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.800
to be an ongoing cost  over the next 3

00:35:01.520 --> 00:35:04.136
to 4 years plus the sign outlay now and

00:35:04.160 --> 00:35:06.936
how we currently managing it without

00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.055
this system general

00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:12.079
manager  our director growth and

00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.176
finance through you general manager I

00:35:16.200 --> 00:35:17.536
might just pass that on to the manager

00:35:17.560 --> 00:35:20.560
of contributions planning

00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.960
please  what we did as part of this is

00:35:26.040 --> 00:35:28.656
we restruct structured  the business

00:35:28.680 --> 00:35:31.575
unit about 2 years ago and we removed

00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:34.055
one position one contribution planning

00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.536
position from that team to facilitate

00:35:36.560 --> 00:35:39.376
the funding for this  the reason we

00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:40.856
did that was

00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.456
because  by having most of our

00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.055
processes automated we mitigate a very

00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:47.936
large risk associated with a lot of

00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:50.960
money  so we thought it better to

00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.536
invest what would have been a wage in

00:35:53.560 --> 00:35:55.496
one contribution planner into the

00:35:55.520 --> 00:35:58.520
software system to me mitigate that

00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.480
risk Council zamit so that wage is net

00:36:04.359 --> 00:36:06.976
net to the ongoing

00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.000
costs  not in the first year because

00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:12.095
the first year there's an implementation

00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.119
cost but from the subscription each year

00:36:15.160 --> 00:36:18.160
after that

00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:23.216
yes do we have any speakers for the

00:36:23.240 --> 00:36:25.416
recommendation councelor

00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:28.440
Campbell I'd i' like to acknowledge that

00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:30.856
contributions planning over the time

00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.880
that I've been on Council has vastly

00:36:34.200 --> 00:36:36.896
improved vastly improved and I think

00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:39.920
that managing monitoring and Reporting

00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:42.856
regarding the funds collected from new

00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.016
development is a

00:36:45.040 --> 00:36:47.416
necessary thing to do particularly to

00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:50.440
decrease risk around the huge amounts

00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:53.095
that are involved and I think it's a

00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.095
progressive move that's going to create

00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:58.119
better outcomes for future existing

00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:00.856
residents thank you councelor are there

00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:01.976
any other speakers for the

00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.176
recommendation councelor mlan thanks

00:37:04.200 --> 00:37:07.200
Madame mayor  I doo support the 

00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.480
motion  like Council zov  yes

00:37:13.160 --> 00:37:15.936
certainly the ongoing costs are are

00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:18.960
there and and quite  quite high and

00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:20.976
increase slightly for the subscription

00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:24.000
every year by the looks of things  but

00:37:24.160 --> 00:37:27.136
I'm also aware of

00:37:27.160 --> 00:37:29.416
some of the costs associated with

00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:31.815
similar programming  Technology

00:37:31.839 --> 00:37:34.216
Solutions at some other councils which

00:37:34.240 --> 00:37:37.240
are reclear as High  and so given the

00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:39.936
given the significant risk associated

00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:41.815
with this  you know particularly the

00:37:41.839 --> 00:37:43.256
vpa for

00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.536
example  and and the other

00:37:45.560 --> 00:37:48.376
contributions it it is pleasing to see

00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:51.400
that there'll be that I guess consistent

00:37:51.520 --> 00:37:54.256
Control process  in place which I

00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:57.280
think is very very important for the 

00:37:57.359 --> 00:38:00.359
for growth Council like Camden so  for

00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:03.536
that reason I'm  I'm happy to support

00:38:03.560 --> 00:38:06.055
it thank you councilor mlan are there

00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:08.335
any other speakers for the

00:38:08.359 --> 00:38:10.256
recommendation against the

00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:12.376
recommendation are there any other

00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.055
questions with that I put the

00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:15.496
recommendation forward all those in

00:38:15.520 --> 00:38:18.520
favor unanimous thank

00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.536
you on to item nine investment Mone is

00:38:21.560 --> 00:38:23.856
November and December 2023 do I have a

00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:25.776
move in second please recommendations on

00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:27.936
49

00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:30.575
 councilor fidelli seconded councilor

00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:32.776
Kagney councelor fidelli  thank you

00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:34.856
happy to support the recommendation

00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:36.136
thank you councelor are there any

00:38:36.160 --> 00:38:37.376
speakers for the

00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:39.416
recommendation against the

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recommendation are there any questions

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with that I put the recommendation

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forward all those in

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favor councelor Campbell councelor mlan

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counselor Kagney councel okay unanimous

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thank you

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item 10 draft local infrastructure

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contributions practice note submission

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to the Department of planning housing

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and infrastructure the recommendation is

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on page 51 do I have a move and seconder

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please moved councilor fidelli seconded

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councelor mlan councelor fidelli I'm

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happy to support the recommendation

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thank you counselor are there any

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speakers for the

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recommendation against the

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recommendation do we have any questions

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with that I put the recommendation

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forward all those in favor

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unanimous thank

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you on to item 11 appointment of a chair

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alternate chairs and a community

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representative to the local Canton Local

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planning panel the recommendation is on

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page 55 do I have a mover and seconder

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please moved councelor Kagney seconded

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councelor zamit councelor Kagney 

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nothing to add thank you m'am happy to

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support the recommendation thank you

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counselor are there any speakers for the

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recommendation against the

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recommendation do we have any

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questions with that I put the

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recommendation forward all those in

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favor councelor mlan councelor Kagney

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councelor domaru councelor sovak

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councelor zamit and councelor fidelli

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and myself councelor Ashley Kagney for

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and those against councelor

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campel the motion is

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carried well that's it for this evening

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thank you so much for those in

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attendance here this evening as well as

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those online  enjoy the rest of your

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evening good

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night