WEBVTT 00:00:01.120 --> 00:00:03.895 good evening counselors and members of 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.896 the public who are joining us not just 00:00:05.920 --> 00:00:07.815 here in the gallery this evening but of 00:00:07.839 --> 00:00:10.839 course online also council is conducting 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:13.256 this ordinary meeting in person and via 00:00:13.280 --> 00:00:15.696 video conferencing as well as live 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:17.736 streaming we are using both a 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:19.696 conferencing tool and live streaming 00:00:19.720 --> 00:00:21.816 software so please bear with us should 00:00:21.840 --> 00:00:24.736 we encounter any technical difficulties 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:26.095 councilors during the course of the 00:00:26.119 --> 00:00:27.776 meeting it would be appreciated if you 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:29.136 could please ensure that you remain 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:31.095 seated so that you are visible in the 00:00:31.119 --> 00:00:33.256 middle of the screen and that you raise 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:36.280 your hand to move and second items to 00:00:36.480 --> 00:00:38.896 indicate if you wish to speak and also 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:40.656 to vote 00:00:40.680 --> 00:00:42.776 please councilors please give your 00:00:42.800 --> 00:00:45.800 attention to councelor Eva Campbell who 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:47.656 will lead us in prayer and 00:00:47.680 --> 00:00:50.680 acknowledgement of 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:53.736 country we affirm our hope and 00:00:53.760 --> 00:00:55.695 dedication to the good government of 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:58.456 Camden and the well-being of all 00:00:58.480 --> 00:01:01.480 Camden's residents no matter their race 00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:04.600 gender or creed I 00:01:07.080 --> 00:01:09.856 affirm I would also like to acknowledge 00:01:09.880 --> 00:01:11.896 that our meeting is taking place on the 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:14.415 traditional lands and waterways of the 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:17.439 Dharug Dharawal and Gundungurra people by 00:01:17.759 --> 00:01:20.656 respecting their kinship with country 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:23.336 their spirituality their knowledge and 00:01:23.360 --> 00:01:26.360 by giving our support for truth telling paying our respects to elders past and present 00:01:31.119 --> 00:01:33.256 thank you counselor webcasting of 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:35.135 Council meetings in accordance with 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:36.735 Camden council's code of meeting 00:01:36.759 --> 00:01:38.496 practice and as permitted under the 00:01:38.520 --> 00:01:40.375 Local Government Act 1993 00:01:40.399 --> 00:01:43.216 this meeting is being live streamed 00:01:43.240 --> 00:01:45.896 and recorded by Council staff for minute 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:48.920 taking and webcasting purposes the 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:50.936 recording will also be made publicly 00:01:50.960 --> 00:01:52.856 available on council's 00:01:52.880 --> 00:01:55.880 website no other webcasting or recording 00:01:56.240 --> 00:01:58.656 by video camera still camera or any 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:00.976 other electronic device capable of 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:04.000 webcasting or recording speech moving 00:02:04.320 --> 00:02:06.896 images or still images is permitted 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:09.015 without the prior approval of the 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:11.855 council Council has not authorized any 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:14.256 other webcasting or recording of this 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:16.376 meeting I remind those that are 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:18.215 participating in this meeting that your 00:02:18.239 --> 00:02:20.376 image and what you say will be broadcast 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:22.776 live to the public and will also be 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:24.976 recorded so please be mindful of your 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:26.456 actions and your 00:02:26.480 --> 00:02:28.816 comments you should avoid making 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:31.376 statements that might defame or offend or 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:33.575 release any personal information about 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:36.495 another individual without their consent 00:02:36.519 --> 00:02:38.536 Council accepts no liability for any 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:40.456 damage that may result in your actions 00:02:40.480 --> 00:02:43.176 and your comments under council's code 00:02:43.200 --> 00:02:45.215 of meeting practice individuals acting 00:02:45.239 --> 00:02:47.056 in a disorderly manner can be asked by 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:49.736 the chairperson to leave the 00:02:49.760 --> 00:02:52.536 meeting councilors we have no leaves of 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:55.215 absence this evening and we also have no 00:02:55.239 --> 00:02:58.239 request to attend via audio visual link 00:03:04.519 --> 00:03:05.855 councilors do we have any Declarations 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:08.879 of Interest this evening councelor 00:03:10.760 --> 00:03:13.760 Sicari thank you Madame 00:03:15.040 --> 00:03:17.495 Mayor I wish should declare a pecuniary 00:03:17.519 --> 00:03:20.519 interest in relation to item 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:24.120 c02 acquisition of land Leppington as a 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:26.896 relative lives in close proximity to the 00:03:26.920 --> 00:03:29.775 site as such I will vacate the chamber 00:03:29.799 --> 00:03:32.135 and not take part in discussion or 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:34.016 voting on the 00:03:34.040 --> 00:03:36.336 matter thank you councelor are there any 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:38.256 other declarations councelor 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:41.280 Campbell thank you I would like to 00:03:41.720 --> 00:03:44.720 refer to ordinary item 07 please and 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:47.976 declare a conflict of interests due to 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:50.336 my extensive experience with multiple 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:52.775 advisory committees and reference groups 00:03:52.799 --> 00:03:54.575 and prior to the creation of these 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:57.256 groups with 355 committees for the 00:03:57.280 --> 00:03:59.976 following reasons I cannot endorse the 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:02.016 dissolution of the Camden International 00:04:02.040 --> 00:04:04.656 Friendship Association by excising it 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:07.215 from Community membership apparent 00:04:07.239 --> 00:04:08.976 contradictions in the appointment of 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:11.096 community members apparent 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:13.976 inconsistencies around members appointed 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:15.775 apparent conflicts of interest in 00:04:15.799 --> 00:04:18.215 members appointed 00:04:18.239 --> 00:04:20.816 establishing set meeting times prior 00:04:20.840 --> 00:04:23.840 to discussion with appointed members and 00:04:24.440 --> 00:04:26.735 advertising for expressions of interest 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:29.216 from the 1st of the 11th '24 to the 27th 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:32.240 of the 1st '25 when large sections of our 00:04:32.280 --> 00:04:35.280 community are away or otherwise 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:38.256 occupied councilor just to confirm will 00:04:38.280 --> 00:04:41.280 you be absent during item 07 or will you 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:44.096 be present no I shall go for a nice walk 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:47.056 outside noted thank you are there any 00:04:47.080 --> 00:04:49.216 other Declarations of 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:51.936 Interest with that I I'll ask for a 00:04:51.960 --> 00:04:54.256 mve in second that the Declarations 00:04:54.280 --> 00:04:56.216 of Interest been noted moved councilor 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:58.856 Fedeli seconded councilor Ferreri 00:04:58.880 --> 00:05:01.735 are there any speakers with that I put 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:03.735 the recommendation forward all those in 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:06.759 favor unanimous thank 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:10.895 you public address the public address 00:05:10.919 --> 00:05:12.976 session in the council meeting provides 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:14.656 an opportunity for people to speak 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:16.936 publicly on any item on council's 00:05:16.960 --> 00:05:19.136 business paper the public address 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:20.895 session will be conducted in accordance 00:05:20.919 --> 00:05:23.295 with the public address guidelines where 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:25.336 a member of the public raises a question 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:27.175 during the public address session a 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:28.576 response will be provided where 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:30.856 counselors or staff have the necessary 00:05:30.880 --> 00:05:33.656 information at hand if not a reply will 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:36.576 be provided at a later time there is a 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:39.576 limit of one person per sorry one 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:42.536 question per speaker per meeting all 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:45.560 speakers are limited to 4 minutes with a 00:05:45.919 --> 00:05:48.136 one minute warning that is given to 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:50.416 speakers prior to the 4 minute time 00:05:50.440 --> 00:05:51.496 period 00:05:51.520 --> 00:05:54.295 elapsing the commencement and conclusion 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:56.336 of the time shall be advised by myself 00:05:56.360 --> 00:05:57.776 the 00:05:57.800 --> 00:05:59.976 chairperson it should be noted that 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:01.816 speakers at Council meetings do not 00:06:01.840 --> 00:06:03.856 enjoy any protection to parliamentary 00:06:03.880 --> 00:06:06.015 style privilege therefore they are 00:06:06.039 --> 00:06:08.416 subject to the risk of defamation action 00:06:08.440 --> 00:06:10.416 if they make comments about 00:06:10.440 --> 00:06:12.776 individuals in the event that a speaker 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:14.416 makes potentially offensive or 00:06:14.440 --> 00:06:16.976 defamatory remarks about any person the 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:18.816 chairperson will ask them to refrain 00:06:18.840 --> 00:06:19.895 from such 00:06:19.919 --> 00:06:22.015 comments the chairperson has the 00:06:22.039 --> 00:06:23.816 discretion to withdraw the privilege to 00:06:23.840 --> 00:06:25.816 speak where a speaker continues to make 00:06:25.840 --> 00:06:27.656 inappropriate or offensive comments 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.680 about another person or point or a point 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:32.575 of order ruling if a speaker breaches 00:06:32.599 --> 00:06:33.376 the 00:06:33.400 --> 00:06:36.056 guidelines only the audio recording of 00:06:36.080 --> 00:06:37.615 the public addressed speakers will be 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:40.639 heard on council's webcast visual images 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:43.056 of the speaker will not be captured as 00:06:43.080 --> 00:06:44.735 part of the 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:47.759 webcast counselors we have five public 00:06:48.520 --> 00:06:51.520 address speakers this evening and one 00:06:53.039 --> 00:06:55.295 tentative I'd like to move that we 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:57.895 hear all 00:06:57.919 --> 00:07:00.575 six public address speakers this 00:07:00.599 --> 00:07:03.599 evening moved myself seconded 00:07:03.919 --> 00:07:06.696 councelor Campbell all those in favor 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:09.096 unanimous thank you 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:12.015 okay so I'll now call upon our first 00:07:12.039 --> 00:07:15.039 speaker this evening and that is Mrs 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:18.639 Hayley Convini principal of Leppington 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:21.216 Public School and she will be speaking 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:24.015 to item 14 notice of motion Leppington 00:07:24.039 --> 00:07:26.295 Public School children crossing and she 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:28.816 will be speaking for the recommendation 00:07:28.840 --> 00:07:30.696 as mentioned mentioned your time will 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.416 begin when you hit the speaker button 00:07:33.440 --> 00:07:36.440 and an alarm will sound when you've 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:40.615 got one minute to go and then a final 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:42.575 alarm will sound when your time is out 00:07:42.599 --> 00:07:44.816 thank you lovely thank you very much so 00:07:44.840 --> 00:07:47.256 yes my name is Hayley Corvini and I am the 00:07:47.280 --> 00:07:48.976 proud principal at Leppington public 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:51.496 school we have ongoing housing 00:07:51.520 --> 00:07:53.615 developments and our school enrollment 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:56.639 has expanded from 200 to 500 students 00:07:57.120 --> 00:07:58.056 since 00:07:58.080 --> 00:08:01.080 2021 and we are expected to reach 800 00:08:01.840 --> 00:08:04.656 within the next 2 years and over a th000 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:07.680 in the next 3 to 4 years since the 00:08:07.840 --> 00:08:10.615 construction of our kiss and ride Zone 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:13.639 we have mandated its use for all of 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:15.855 our students in year 1 through to year6 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:18.879 for collection and require that they 00:08:19.400 --> 00:08:21.656 secure their own seat belt however 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:23.455 with kindergarten students they need a 00:08:23.479 --> 00:08:25.816 fivepoint harness and that requires the 00:08:25.840 --> 00:08:27.855 parents to park on the western side of 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.735 Ricard Road r Cloud Road parking is 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:33.759 extremely limited as a result of our 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:36.616 train station just down the road and 00:08:36.640 --> 00:08:38.895 obviously our infrastructure in 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:41.919 general our school currently has staff 00:08:42.719 --> 00:08:44.696 who are volunteering to manage the 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:47.720 traffic and pedestrian safety across our 00:08:47.920 --> 00:08:50.920 500 meter frontage for pedestrians 00:08:52.160 --> 00:08:54.896 our volunteer staff step into the 00:08:54.920 --> 00:08:57.920 traffic to assist with visibility and 00:08:58.560 --> 00:09:01.255 safety for groups of parents and 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:04.216 5-year-old students crossing Rickard 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:07.240 Road this is a dangerous unsustainable 00:09:07.800 --> 00:09:10.495 effort emphasizing the need for urgent 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:12.856 action particularly as the traffic 00:09:12.880 --> 00:09:15.616 increases and our student population 00:09:15.640 --> 00:09:18.336 increases the school has taken every 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:21.360 possible step to reduce pedestrian risk 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:23.776 but the situation remains hazardous and 00:09:23.800 --> 00:09:26.416 beyond our control with increasing 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:29.440 traffic and school pickup vehicles and I 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:31.616 rate commuters that are not affiliated 00:09:31.640 --> 00:09:34.640 with our school I am in full support of 00:09:35.040 --> 00:09:37.656 councelor Rahman's urgent call for 00:09:37.680 --> 00:09:40.016 pedestrian and road safety improvements 00:09:40.040 --> 00:09:43.040 to protect our beautiful Community thank 00:09:44.079 --> 00:09:47.016 you thank you Mayor thank you very much 00:09:47.040 --> 00:09:49.375 principal Corvini for your time and your 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:51.456 comments this 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:54.296 evening we'll move on to public address 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:56.656 speaker number two Miss Joe O'Brien on 00:09:56.680 --> 00:09:58.736 behalf of the Camden historical society 00:09:58.760 --> 00:10:00.815 and she'll be speak speaking to item 13 00:10:00.839 --> 00:10:03.696 notice of motion Studley Park and you'll 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:06.720 be speaking for the 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:09.495 recommendation thank you Madame Mayor 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:10.815 and thank you for the opportunity to 00:10:10.839 --> 00:10:13.255 speak tonight this evening I am speaking 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:16.096 on behalf of Cen Historical Society but 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:17.656 we know there are many members of the 00:10:17.680 --> 00:10:19.416 public who are also concerned about 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:21.616 developments at Studley Park this 00:10:21.640 --> 00:10:23.576 development is deeply unpopular within 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:25.696 the local community and we are regularly 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:28.416 asked about what has happened and why 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:29.696 therefore we support support the 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:31.495 proposed motion that councilors is are 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:33.656 briefed about the background and next 00:10:33.680 --> 00:10:35.495 steps for Studley Park and we thank 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:38.336 councelor mlan for proposing it it is 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:39.935 disappointing that our elected 00:10:39.959 --> 00:10:42.016 councilors have not had the opportunity 00:10:42.040 --> 00:10:44.576 to be more involved in this decision 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:46.136 while we acknowledge that the decision 00:10:46.160 --> 00:10:48.536 on this da is delegated to and has been 00:10:48.560 --> 00:10:51.416 made by the Sydney Western City Planning 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:53.935 panel the situation is complex and 00:10:53.959 --> 00:10:56.536 councilors should have an input into all 00:10:56.560 --> 00:10:59.296 aspects of this development and as the 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:01.055 community's Representatives you should 00:11:01.079 --> 00:11:02.856 be fully informed especially when 00:11:02.880 --> 00:11:04.615 questions are asked of you by your 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:06.856 community many of us were disappointed 00:11:06.880 --> 00:11:08.815 by the approval of this da particularly 00:11:08.839 --> 00:11:10.615 the inclusion of residential apartment 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:12.736 buildings within the ? of a state 00:11:12.760 --> 00:11:15.416 Heritage listed item we are concerned 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:17.456 about the substantial impacts on Studley 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:19.815 Park house which if not restored as a 00:11:19.839 --> 00:11:22.296 home we feel would ideally be used as a 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.856 community space or House Museum there 00:11:24.880 --> 00:11:27.375 are also important issues regarding the 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:30.176 impact on the surrounding Heritage 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:32.216 and its history as well as impacts to 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:34.416 the Golf Club Community Land and the 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:37.440 endangered plant ? the 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:40.096 heritage of the entire State Heritage 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:42.296 listed side has been compromised by this 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:44.176 development the development is not 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:46.375 facilitating conservation of all of the 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:48.935 Heritage item which does include its 00:11:48.959 --> 00:11:51.016 landscape curtilage and surrounding 00:11:51.040 --> 00:11:53.856 natural heritage sadly this Heritage 00:11:53.880 --> 00:11:55.216 building has been left empty 00:11:55.240 --> 00:11:57.136 deteriorating to the point at which this 00:11:57.160 --> 00:11:59.576 Heritage Clause has been seen as an 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:01.976 option for its salvation but there are 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:04.456 other options which do not involve an 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:06.615 adjoining hotel and four multi-story 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:09.495 apartment buildings the spot resoning to 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:11.696 allow apartments in a recreational zone 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:13.976 is at odds with council's developing 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:16.216 strategies for ? which have been 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:18.175 carefully planned after much 00:12:18.199 --> 00:12:20.375 consultation and multiple public 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.495 exhibitions it is not clear that the 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:24.255 Heritage incent of provision should be 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:27.279 used to override the R2 zoning and other 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:29.935 planning rules for this land 00:12:29.959 --> 00:12:31.656 there is a parallel here with gledswood 00:12:31.680 --> 00:12:34.416 another state Heritage listed item also 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:36.255 of great importance to the community 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:37.776 where a developer made use of the 00:12:37.800 --> 00:12:39.976 Heritage conservation Clause to overturn 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:43.000 its tourism zoning there was similar 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:45.296 widespread Community concern but little 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:47.336 opportunity for the elected councilors 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:50.360 to be involved in this process if this 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:52.296 continues our iconic Heritage buildings 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:54.336 and spaces and valuable Recreation and 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.416 tourism zones could be lost one by one 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:59.255 to one planned developments it is vital 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:00.976 we keep a balance between our history 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:03.136 and our new developments both to 00:13:03.160 --> 00:13:05.536 preserve Our Heritage and to explore the 00:13:05.560 --> 00:13:08.136 economic potential as tourism and 00:13:08.160 --> 00:13:09.736 Recreation 00:13:09.760 --> 00:13:11.815 destinations councilors should have the 00:13:11.839 --> 00:13:13.375 opportunity to be briefed and kept 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:15.016 updated about these significant 00:13:15.040 --> 00:13:17.096 developments especially those involving 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:19.656 Heritage ARS which matter so much to our 00:13:19.680 --> 00:13:21.935 community council has shown a wonderful 00:13:21.959 --> 00:13:23.656 and strong commitment to Cam's history 00:13:23.680 --> 00:13:26.296 and Heritage in its plans and strategies 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:27.896 it is only right that you're all 00:13:27.920 --> 00:13:29.495 provided with all of the background 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:32.216 facts and updates Camden historical 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:33.856 society would be pleased to talk to you 00:13:33.880 --> 00:13:36.136 further about this and to contribute any 00:13:36.160 --> 00:13:38.096 information we have to this briefing 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:39.976 process we hope you take this 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:41.696 opportunity to ask to be further 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:43.416 informed on the background and ongoing 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:45.456 developments with this much loved and 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.336 iconic Heritage Place thank you for your 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:51.360 time thank you Miss Jo O'Brien for your 00:13:51.560 --> 00:13:52.776 time this 00:13:52.800 --> 00:13:55.175 evening I'll Now call upon speaker 00:13:55.199 --> 00:13:57.856 NUMBER three Dr Ian Willis who will be 00:13:57.880 --> 00:13:59.935 speaking on behalf of K in Historical 00:13:59.959 --> 00:14:02.959 Society on item 17 notice of Motion 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:06.320 state Heritage register and Dr Willis 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:10.175 would be speaking for the 00:14:10.199 --> 00:14:12.416 recommendation as president of the 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:14.576 Historical Society we would like to 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:17.336 support the motion proposed by councilor 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:20.360 mlan the Camden Township represented by 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:23.336 the Camden Town Center Conservation area 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:25.896 has been identified as important for its 00:14:25.920 --> 00:14:28.920 historic and Heritage significance 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:32.255 Sydney architect Hector Abrahams of the 00:14:32.279 --> 00:14:34.815 firm Clive Lucas Stapleton Partners 00:14:34.839 --> 00:14:37.216 stated as early as 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:40.240 206 that Camden was the best preserved 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.255 rural town in the entire Cberland 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:46.279 plain I maintain that the Camden Town 00:14:47.040 --> 00:14:49.935 Center is essentially unchanged in form 00:14:49.959 --> 00:14:52.456 and structure from its 19th century 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:55.216 Origins as a privately developed Village 00:14:55.240 --> 00:14:58.240 by the MacArthur family combined with 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:01.519 Edward and Inter War growth and infil 00:15:02.079 --> 00:15:03.856 the Town Center has 00:15:03.880 --> 00:15:06.456 amazingly retained its integrity and 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:09.255 Rural aesthetic particularly given its 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:12.279 location on the nepan river flood 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:15.440 plane Camden's aesthetic was noted in 00:15:15.560 --> 00:15:18.536 Publications as early as 00:15:18.560 --> 00:15:21.055 1880 and reinforced by tourist 00:15:21.079 --> 00:15:23.016 journalism of the inter War period which 00:15:23.040 --> 00:15:24.735 championed its 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:27.759 englishness and Village 00:15:27.800 --> 00:15:30.416 nature the these characteristics 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:33.055 surprising to some are still 00:15:33.079 --> 00:15:35.055 identifiable and have shaped the 00:15:35.079 --> 00:15:38.079 community's sense of place and 00:15:39.199 --> 00:15:42.199 identity historian Emeritus Professor 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:45.639 Alan Atkinson who wrote Camden farm and 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:49.360 Village Life in early New South Wales 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:51.696 has detailed the first 40 Years of the 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:54.720 town's growth he maintains that Camden's 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:58.720 Town plan drawn up in 18 36 by surva 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:03.759 General S Thomas Mitchell is one of the 00:16:03.959 --> 00:16:06.776 best preserved aspects of the 00:16:06.800 --> 00:16:09.800 Town Atkinson argues that Camden is a 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:13.096 small 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:15.456 Masterpiece due to its sensitive 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.295 positioning in the landscape identified 00:16:18.319 --> 00:16:21.319 by Mitchell with its han and natural 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:25.216 Dimensions the town according to 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:28.175 Atkinson is the most successful 00:16:28.199 --> 00:16:31.136 engineered Community by the mathur 00:16:31.160 --> 00:16:34.160 family of the 19th century and overall 00:16:34.319 --> 00:16:37.319 the town is a profoundly important place 00:16:38.880 --> 00:16:41.880 for its historical and Heritage 00:16:42.160 --> 00:16:45.160 value historian Emeritus Professor Grace 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:48.600 Kin has said Camden and its surround 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:52.600 surrounding rural landscape clearly have 00:16:53.199 --> 00:16:56.199 National as well as state significance 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:58.096 because of their links with vital 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:00.136 developments in the early Colony 00:17:00.160 --> 00:17:02.495 including foundational contacts between 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:05.456 Aboriginal people and settlers early 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:08.136 breakthroughs in the cattle industry the 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:10.456 strong association with the illustrious 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:13.256 MacArthur family and the wool industry 00:17:13.280 --> 00:17:14.736 and the way this 00:17:14.760 --> 00:17:17.760 landscape which you can still see today 00:17:17.959 --> 00:17:20.959 was so much ad admired by settlers kin 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:25.079 argues that the town is precious the 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:28.655 Camden Historical Society agrees with 00:17:28.679 --> 00:17:30.775 the settlements and recommends that 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:33.576 Council support councilor McLean's 00:17:33.600 --> 00:17:35.296 motion thank 00:17:35.320 --> 00:17:38.056 you thank you very much Dr Willis for 00:17:38.080 --> 00:17:40.775 your time this evening I'll now ask 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:43.535 speaker NUMBER four Mr James Dunbar on 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:46.559 behalf of Cam Cameron Bray group who 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:49.576 will be speaking on item one post public 00:17:49.600 --> 00:17:52.256 exhibition draft planning proposal 00:17:52.280 --> 00:17:53.576 and we'll be speaking for the 00:17:53.600 --> 00:17:55.496 recommendation to please step forward 00:17:55.520 --> 00:17:57.216 thank 00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:00.240 you when you're ready 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:03.496 thank you Mayor Kagney good 00:18:03.520 --> 00:18:05.976 evening May Kagney and counselors my 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:07.736 name is James dunar I'm senior 00:18:07.760 --> 00:18:09.216 development manager with Cameron BR 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:11.535 group the developer behind 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:14.256 Burling I'll be brief as the report 00:18:14.280 --> 00:18:16.135 prepared by your Council offices is very 00:18:16.159 --> 00:18:18.976 thorough and supported I do appreciate 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:20.655 the opportunity to be able to speak in 00:18:20.679 --> 00:18:22.976 support of the recommendation to endorse 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:26.000 the planning proposal and DCP 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:29.816 amendments the content of the proposed 00:18:29.840 --> 00:18:32.840 amendments we consider to be relatively 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:35.936 minor and is driven by the desire to 00:18:35.960 --> 00:18:38.775 deliver better outcomes for the 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:40.936 community I want to take the opportunity 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:42.655 to thank and praise the council staff 00:18:42.679 --> 00:18:44.496 for their efforts working on this 00:18:44.520 --> 00:18:46.696 proposal and we appreciate the work 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:48.655 which has gone into preparing the 00:18:48.679 --> 00:18:51.679 endorsement we also value and are 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:54.135 grateful for the strong partnership we 00:18:54.159 --> 00:18:56.535 have with Council on De on developing 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:59.376 Burling together 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:00.616 thanks again for the opportunity to 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:03.640 speak tonight in support of the proposal 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:04.895 and we're hoping for a positive 00:19:04.919 --> 00:19:06.775 endorsement to allow us to get on with 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:09.056 the Burling developments and the 00:19:09.080 --> 00:19:12.080 delivery of much needed housing thank 00:19:12.280 --> 00:19:15.280 you thank you very much Mr Dber we'll 00:19:16.080 --> 00:19:19.080 now move to speaker NUMBER five Mr sahin 00:19:20.120 --> 00:19:22.816 who will be speaking on item three 00:19:22.840 --> 00:19:25.496 pre-public exhibition Part B DCP 00:19:25.520 --> 00:19:28.520 Southern neighborhood center of 131 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:31.720 Charles McIntosh Parkway Coby and Mr 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:34.256 sahin will be speaking for the 00:19:34.280 --> 00:19:37.280 recommendation when you're 00:19:38.840 --> 00:19:41.496 ready good evening my name is AB sahin 00:19:41.520 --> 00:19:44.520 I'm development manager for mvac at Coby 00:19:44.760 --> 00:19:46.256 I appreciate the opportunity to speak to 00:19:46.280 --> 00:19:48.256 the council tonight I'd like to speak in 00:19:48.280 --> 00:19:50.535 favor of the recommendation to proceed 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:53.559 with the DCP the local Town Center is a 00:19:53.919 --> 00:19:55.376 key component of our master plan 00:19:55.400 --> 00:19:57.496 community and we certainly appreciate 00:19:57.520 --> 00:19:59.056 and wanted to acknowledge the efforts of 00:19:59.080 --> 00:20:01.416 council staff namely Josh Jamie and Brad 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:04.296 and Loy in getting this recommendation 00:20:04.320 --> 00:20:07.216 up for us the recommendation itself is 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:08.936 very thorough so there's no need for me 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:11.535 to speak on the matter itself and 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:13.256 we'll be here happy to take any 00:20:13.280 --> 00:20:16.280 questions if asked thank 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:19.616 you thank you Mr sahin for your time 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:22.640 this evening councilors we have our 00:20:22.760 --> 00:20:25.056 tentative speaker which we have 00:20:25.080 --> 00:20:26.775 agreed that we will hear tonight who 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:29.456 will be attending via audio visual link 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:32.480 so might take a few moments to have 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:36.559 him join us but it's Mr Soarin I hope 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:41.856 I got that pronunciation correct on 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:43.816 item 14 notice of motion Leppington 00:20:43.840 --> 00:20:46.135 Public School children Crossing and he 00:20:46.159 --> 00:20:49.135 will be speaking for the recommendation 00:20:49.159 --> 00:20:51.976 so when you're ready if you can hear 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:55.000 me yes I can hear you take it away can 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:58.440 you hear me yeah yes yeah I'm here as 00:20:59.280 --> 00:21:00.775 I'm here today as a concerned Citizen 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:02.655 and a parent advocating for the urgent 00:21:02.679 --> 00:21:04.496 need of a pedestrian Crossing near the 00:21:04.520 --> 00:21:06.775 Livington Public School I have already 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:08.376 communicated regarding this with the 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:10.496 council so I understand that there 00:21:10.520 --> 00:21:11.976 are challenges associated with 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:14.696 establishing a pedestrian clossing 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:17.255 such as the rural nature of the road 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:19.216 its geometrical complexities and the 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:22.015 insufficient Road markings however I 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:23.856 believe these challenges should not 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:26.376 deter us from finding a solution I've 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:27.976 been also informed that the earliest 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:29.895 possible liation of pedestrian Crossing 00:21:29.919 --> 00:21:31.816 will only occur after the initial design 00:21:31.840 --> 00:21:34.296 completion for the road upgrade which 00:21:34.320 --> 00:21:37.320 I believe is scheduled for June 20126 00:21:37.600 --> 00:21:39.696 and the tole pending funding from the 00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:41.816 Federal Road safety 00:21:41.840 --> 00:21:44.816 program this timeline is simply too 00:21:44.840 --> 00:21:46.775 late for our children who need safe 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:49.799 passage to and from the school and 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:52.895 moreover the traffic footprint on the 00:21:52.919 --> 00:21:55.416 record road is alarmingly High due to 00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:58.216 the proximity of the raway station and 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:00.336 the massive ongoing Construction in the 00:22:00.360 --> 00:22:03.360 area the situation creates a chaotic 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:05.736 environment during the school drop off 00:22:05.760 --> 00:22:08.760 and pickup times turning what should be 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:11.255 a simple task into a nightmare for 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:14.279 parents and children on rainy days like 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:17.400 today when parents are in Rush the risk 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:19.176 of slips and accident increases 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:21.056 significantly as they attempt to cross 00:22:21.080 --> 00:22:24.080 the road without any safe Crossing in 00:22:25.159 --> 00:22:27.336 place while I understand there may be 00:22:27.360 --> 00:22:29.816 countless reasons for excuses for us why 00:22:29.840 --> 00:22:31.895 we can't Implement a pedestrian Crossing 00:22:31.919 --> 00:22:34.176 I firmly believe that it is the need of 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:36.816 the r every day we delay we are gambling 00:22:36.840 --> 00:22:38.816 with the lives of our children and their 00:22:38.840 --> 00:22:41.296 parents I'm fully supportive of this 00:22:41.320 --> 00:22:43.376 initiative that prioritizes the safety 00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:45.895 of our children and the community and I 00:22:45.919 --> 00:22:48.919 like to thank Alisa for working on this 00:22:49.080 --> 00:22:51.096 and thanks for all your time that's it 00:22:51.120 --> 00:22:51.936 from 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:54.960 me thank you very much and councilors 00:22:55.919 --> 00:22:57.696 that concludes our public address 00:22:57.720 --> 00:22:59.296 session this evening can I ask for move 00:22:59.320 --> 00:23:01.895 from SAR that the addresses be noted 00:23:01.919 --> 00:23:03.616 moveed councelor Ramen second and 00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:06.640 counselor Suri are there any speakers 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:08.376 for or against with that I put the 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:11.135 recommendation forward all those in 00:23:11.159 --> 00:23:14.159 favor unanimous thank 00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:17.535 you confirmation of minutes the 00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:19.616 recommendation is on page 14 that the 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:21.456 minutes of the ordinary meeting held on 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:24.480 the 11th of February 2025 copies of 00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:26.936 which have been circulated be confirmed 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:29.655 and adopted subject to the amendment of 00:23:29.679 --> 00:23:32.015 the public address item to record that 00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:35.039 Mr Vincent B address Council in relation 00:23:35.320 --> 00:23:38.320 to the recommendation on agenda item 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:41.496 lt2 of the minutes of the local traffic 00:23:41.520 --> 00:23:43.015 committee meeting held on the 3rd of 00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:44.096 December 00:23:44.120 --> 00:23:47.120 2024 do I have a mover and second please 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:49.655 moved councelor ramed second and 00:23:49.679 --> 00:23:51.416 counselor Fedeli councelor rahad would 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:53.535 you like to speak to the 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.255 minutes thank you Madame man no I'm are 00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:58.736 there any other speakers 00:23:58.760 --> 00:24:00.336 with that I put the motion forward all 00:24:00.360 --> 00:24:01.296 those in 00:24:01.320 --> 00:24:04.320 favor unanimous thank you councilors we 00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:08.240 have one Merl minute this 00:24:10.840 --> 00:24:13.616 evening maril men International women's 00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:14.936 day 00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:17.960 Gala I'm delighted to report on an 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.296 incredible success of the fifth annual 00:24:20.320 --> 00:24:22.616 International women's day Gala held last 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:25.176 Thursday at the gledswood homestead and 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:27.775 Winery this event has once again 00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:29.496 highlighted canden's commitment to 00:24:29.520 --> 00:24:31.736 celebrating and empowering the women in 00:24:31.760 --> 00:24:32.816 our 00:24:32.840 --> 00:24:35.056 community this year's Gala brought 00:24:35.080 --> 00:24:38.080 together 308 attendees all gathered to 00:24:38.520 --> 00:24:40.216 recognize the achievements of local 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.696 women Foster meaningful conversations 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:45.255 and support the ongoing push for gender 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:47.696 equality the evening was a true 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:50.255 celebration filled with inspiration 00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:52.135 connection and a shared vision for a 00:24:52.159 --> 00:24:55.159 more inclusive future we are lucky to we 00:24:55.679 --> 00:24:58.176 were lucky to welcome edua Bartholomew 00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:01.200 at our keynote speaker this year with an 00:25:01.360 --> 00:25:03.375 illustrious career spanning 00:25:03.399 --> 00:25:06.255 television radio and print media media 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:09.279 uina captivated the audience and 00:25:09.320 --> 00:25:10.655 certainly made us laugh on many 00:25:10.679 --> 00:25:12.375 occasions with her insights on 00:25:12.399 --> 00:25:15.399 resilience leadership and her Incredible 00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:17.976 Journey in the meteor industry her 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:20.255 presence added to a special touch to 00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:23.279 what was already a remarkable evening a 00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:25.056 key highlight of the night was the 00:25:25.080 --> 00:25:27.056 presentation of the Camden Woman of the 00:25:27.080 --> 00:25:30.080 Year award which each year recognizes an 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:32.775 outstanding Local woman for her 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:35.255 significant contributions to our 00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:37.696 community congratulations to Francis 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:40.255 Warner for her long long lifelong 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:43.096 dedication and impact beyond the 00:25:43.120 --> 00:25:45.655 celebrations the G the gala also 00:25:45.679 --> 00:25:48.535 served as a platform for giving back I'm 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:50.496 thrilled to share that the event raised 00:25:50.520 --> 00:25:53.375 more than $220,000 for T Turning Point 00:25:53.399 --> 00:25:56.399 Camden a local organization making a 00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:59.336 tangible difference in the lives of 00:25:59.360 --> 00:26:01.816 women this event would not have been 00:26:01.840 --> 00:26:03.775 possible without the generous support of 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:06.799 our wonderful sponsors a thank you to 00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:09.736 our silver sponsors MacArthur BMW 00:26:09.760 --> 00:26:12.736 momenta books and McDonald's in Matha as 00:26:12.760 --> 00:26:14.856 well as our bronze sponsors Brookfield 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:17.696 house Camden Golf Club Fox and co- 00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:20.720 Finance IP Technologies print sign and 00:26:21.159 --> 00:26:23.696 design Hub and Polytech air conditioning 00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:26.616 services and Fresh Start accounting your 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:28.775 commitment to empowering women in our 00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.056 community is truly 00:26:31.080 --> 00:26:32.856 appreciated finally I want to 00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:34.535 acknowledge the dedication of Camden 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:37.056 Council staff who worked tirelessly to 00:26:37.080 --> 00:26:40.080 make this event a reality your efforts 00:26:40.840 --> 00:26:43.840 ensured a seamless and Unforgettable 00:26:44.080 --> 00:26:46.576 Unforgettable evening for all those who 00:26:46.600 --> 00:26:49.255 attended International women's day is a 00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:51.296 moment to reflect on how far we have 00:26:51.320 --> 00:26:53.936 come but also a reminder of the work 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:56.960 that still lies ahead this year's theme 00:26:57.120 --> 00:26:59.816 accelerate action challenged us to turn 00:26:59.840 --> 00:27:02.840 promises into progress and I'm proud 00:27:03.080 --> 00:27:05.255 that Camden continues to lead the way in 00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.176 fostering equality and 00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:09.456 inclusion thank you to everyone who 00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:12.056 attended and supported this event and 00:27:12.080 --> 00:27:14.176 I'm really looking forward to our cont 00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:16.816 to continuing our effort efforts to to 00:27:16.840 --> 00:27:19.216 celebrate support and uplift the 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.015 incredible women in our community 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:24.135 councelors tonight the recommendation is 00:27:24.159 --> 00:27:25.816 that we note the information are there 00:27:25.840 --> 00:27:28.840 any speakers to the Merl minute 00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:31.616 with that I put the recommendation 00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:34.336 forward all those in favor unanimous 00:27:34.360 --> 00:27:37.360 thank 00:27:37.600 --> 00:27:40.600 you councilors on to item one 00:27:40.840 --> 00:27:42.655 recommendation there's a recommendation 00:27:42.679 --> 00:27:45.679 on page 28 of the business paper post 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:47.616 public exhibition draft planning 00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:50.640 proposal 955 965 and 975 the Northern 00:27:52.399 --> 00:27:54.135 Road BR jelli 00:27:54.159 --> 00:27:56.495 Berling councilor do I have a motion 00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.519 this evening 00:27:59.679 --> 00:28:01.736 councilor 00:28:01.760 --> 00:28:04.456 Fedeli do I have a second 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.495 off are you moving the staff 00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:08.616 recommendation councilor Fedeli yes 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.640 madame Mayor a second councilor ferari 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:14.296 councilor Fedeli thank you Madame 00:28:14.320 --> 00:28:17.320 Mayor as we said as the speaker said 00:28:18.120 --> 00:28:19.816 thank you to the staff that's done a 00:28:19.840 --> 00:28:21.736 lot of hard work in this and bringing it 00:28:21.760 --> 00:28:24.616 to briefings for us to have a look and 00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:26.336 make our decision not to make our 00:28:26.360 --> 00:28:27.775 decisions to give us a better 00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:28.936 understanding 00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:31.960 of the report as our community 00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:36.200 grows we are need in need of these 00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.895 sites and again a minor Amendment happy 00:28:39.919 --> 00:28:40.696 to 00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:43.056 support thank you councilor Fedeli are 00:28:43.080 --> 00:28:45.015 there any speakers for the 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:46.535 recommendation against the 00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:48.976 recommendation do we have any questions 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:50.456 councelor 00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:53.480 mlan thanks Madam Mayor just a 00:28:54.080 --> 00:28:57.080 question in relation to the matter 00:28:58.120 --> 00:29:00.456 raised by transport for New South Wales 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:02.696 it looks to be sort of 00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:05.655 unresolved I'm I'm I'm supportive of the 00:29:05.679 --> 00:29:08.056 the resolution of it but I guess I just 00:29:08.080 --> 00:29:10.255 want to ask the question around is there 00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:12.856 a future risk or financial implication 00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:15.655 to council if if a dual lane or 00:29:15.679 --> 00:29:18.679 something similar was wasn't included 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:20.736 in this project from the start does it 00:29:20.760 --> 00:29:23.375 expose Council to potentially having 00:29:23.399 --> 00:29:26.399 to fix it in the future thank you Mr 00:29:27.080 --> 00:29:29.176 general manager 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:30.895 thank you I'll refer this question to 00:29:30.919 --> 00:29:33.919 council's director of planning and 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.696 environment through the general 00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:39.535 manager counselors council's position is 00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:42.559 that we we shouldn't be we funding 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.135 the the additional road work so that's 00:29:45.159 --> 00:29:46.696 why the we've added the 00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:48.976 recommendation in terms of writing to 00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.000 the Department of planning our 00:29:52.360 --> 00:29:54.736 view is it should be incorporated as 00:29:54.760 --> 00:29:56.416 per what we originally thought through 00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.440 the state infrastructure contribution 00:29:59.760 --> 00:30:02.760 so we'll continue to have those 00:30:03.320 --> 00:30:06.320 discussions with the Department in 00:30:06.399 --> 00:30:08.856 consultation with the developer but 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:10.976 council's position would be that we we 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.495 shouldn't be funding those 00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:16.519 works councilors are there any further 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:19.535 questions with that I put the motion 00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:21.296 forward all those in 00:30:21.320 --> 00:30:23.616 favor unanimous thank 00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:26.640 you on to item two pre-public exhibition 00:30:27.399 --> 00:30:29.456 Part B residential development adjacent 00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:32.480 to Maryland Homestead DCP Camden growth 00:30:33.320 --> 00:30:36.216 Center precincts DCP Amendment we have a 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.135 staff recommendation on page 00:30:39.159 --> 00:30:42.159 38 council do I have a motion this 00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:46.200 evening councilor Fedeli 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:50.279 secondar councelor quel councilor 00:30:51.120 --> 00:30:52.616 Fedeli you're happy to move the staff 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:55.096 recommendation yes madame Mayor thank 00:30:55.120 --> 00:30:58.120 you oh thank you again another a lot 00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:02.720 of work goes into these plans Master 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.495 plans they take years they're not done 00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:07.856 overnight lot of decisions by 00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:10.856 counselors a lot of reading and to and 00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:13.880 from and again happy with the the 00:31:14.320 --> 00:31:16.255 recommendation thank you councelor are 00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:18.255 there any speakers for the 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:19.736 recommendation against the 00:31:19.760 --> 00:31:22.456 recommendation do we have any questions 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:23.655 councelor 00:31:23.679 --> 00:31:26.679 Campbell I notice on page 37 we have 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:28.736 a recommended community 00:31:28.760 --> 00:31:31.015 participation I wonder if it would be 00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.216 possible to add to that notification 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:36.096 letters to land owners surrounding the 00:31:36.120 --> 00:31:39.120 property comma to Camden Historical 00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.720 Society comma Camden resident Action 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.576 Group comma and a formal comment be 00:31:45.600 --> 00:31:48.600 requested from the Heritage advisory 00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:51.495 committee Mr general manager can I 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:53.096 just confirm whether or not that needs 00:31:53.120 --> 00:31:54.696 to be a part of the motion or whether or 00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:57.720 not we can have the staff that Mr 00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:00.736 general manager I'll I'll refer to you 00:32:00.760 --> 00:32:03.760 thank you I might seek guidance 00:32:04.120 --> 00:32:05.495 from our director of planning 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:07.375 environment around council's normal 00:32:07.399 --> 00:32:09.736 practice in seeking input from those 00:32:09.760 --> 00:32:11.816 various groups and individuals and 00:32:11.840 --> 00:32:13.416 whether that can be accommodated through 00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:15.135 this 00:32:15.159 --> 00:32:17.255 process through you Mr general 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:20.279 manager yeah that that is 00:32:20.679 --> 00:32:23.679 perfectly fine in council's Community 00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:26.880 participation plan we do identify 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.976 that development applications that of 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.736 of a nature that would impact 00:32:32.760 --> 00:32:35.495 Heritage matters would be referred to 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.856 appropriate 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:40.880 groups councelor Campbell just as 00:32:41.120 --> 00:32:43.255 will I trust you I'd like to see 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:44.696 those groups added there's a lot of 00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:46.535 angst at the moment in the community 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:48.775 over Heritage decisions and I think we 00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:50.856 should go out to the people who can 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.535 provide us with an expert commentary and 00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:55.576 specifically go out to them not just 00:32:55.600 --> 00:32:57.696 hope that they see it in passing thank 00:32:57.720 --> 00:32:59.056 you thank you thank you councelor are 00:32:59.080 --> 00:33:00.775 there any other speakers for the 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:02.176 recommendation against the 00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:04.255 recommendation do we have any 00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:06.096 questions with that I put the 00:33:06.120 --> 00:33:07.936 recommendation forward all those in 00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.960 favor unanimous thank 00:33:12.080 --> 00:33:15.080 you on to item three pre-public 00:33:15.120 --> 00:33:17.816 exhibition Part B DCP Southern 00:33:17.840 --> 00:33:20.655 Neighborhood Center 131 Charles 00:33:20.679 --> 00:33:23.416 Macintosh Parkway Coby there's a staff 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.440 recommendation on pages 46 and 47 of our 00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.519 business papers do I have a motion 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:33.015 councilor 00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:36.039 Corell thank you Madame Mayor 00:33:37.120 --> 00:33:40.120 I mly support the motion I would like to 00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:42.856 move the motion that the staff 00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.880 recommendation be minus point4 a and 00:33:47.639 --> 00:33:50.639 4B sorry minus point4 a and to modify 00:33:52.159 --> 00:33:54.936 forb to remove the words if unresolved 00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:57.960 submissions are received the reason 00:33:58.360 --> 00:34:01.360 I do wish to do this is in the sense of 00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:04.655 I'm not overly supportive of 00:34:04.679 --> 00:34:07.056 increasing the supermarket retail floor 00:34:07.080 --> 00:34:10.080 space from 36,000 M squ to 15500 M squ 00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:17.119 the camon LGA already suffers from 00:34:18.560 --> 00:34:21.560 a monopoly of of of supermarkets it' 00:34:22.040 --> 00:34:24.176 be nice to see if Council can help help 00:34:24.200 --> 00:34:26.575 facilitate greater competition in the in 00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:29.599 the Supermarket space to allow 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:32.375 cheaper 00:34:32.399 --> 00:34:35.399 prices for our residents so that was 00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:40.575 that's hit the wrong button councelor 00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:41.976 Cornell before you go any further I'll 00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.375 just get you to double check yes the 00:34:44.399 --> 00:34:46.456 screen up there just make sure that what 00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:48.335 says can we make it a little bit bigger 00:34:48.359 --> 00:34:50.055 I'm strug to read we've got some blind 00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.256 people in the chamber that's 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:54.375 okay thank you I'm getting to the wrong 00:34:54.399 --> 00:34:55.456 age 00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:58.256 now and before we proceed if that's fine 00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.280 I'll ask for a 00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:05.119 second yes that's fine yeah yeah 00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.256 seconded councelor Campbell okay all 00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:10.016 right would you like to speak to the to 00:35:10.040 --> 00:35:13.040 the motion or yep sorry I just finish 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:17.280 off so I just know there are wers and 00:35:17.680 --> 00:35:19.416 wers and CO's the big Supermarket 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.440 players only only quite close to this to 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.800 this new development and it would be 00:35:27.839 --> 00:35:30.839 pry on us to try to make the the the 00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:34.000 supermarket space a bit more 00:35:36.200 --> 00:35:39.200 competitive thank you oh sorry I was 00:35:39.640 --> 00:35:42.536 going to say the reason for the the the 00:35:42.560 --> 00:35:45.335 the change to four though is I'm I'm I 00:35:45.359 --> 00:35:46.736 want to hear what the public want to say 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:49.335 so I want to put that out to the 00:35:49.359 --> 00:35:51.216 public to see if they have strong views 00:35:51.240 --> 00:35:52.256 that they would like to see more 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.736 competition in this space well then 00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:56.575 we can we can take those views on board 00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:57.936 if they're not and they they have happy 00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:00.256 with with having a larger retail 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:02.856 space well then that's a that's a fine 00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:05.696 too thank you Madame May thank you very 00:36:05.720 --> 00:36:07.416 much councelor Cornell are there any 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:09.016 speakers for the 00:36:09.040 --> 00:36:11.295 motion councelor 00:36:11.319 --> 00:36:14.319 Campbell I'd just like to endorse 00:36:14.640 --> 00:36:16.536 that throwing that back to the 00:36:16.560 --> 00:36:18.456 community so we can find out what they 00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:21.416 think of it land banking by Major 00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:24.055 retailers particularly supermarkets in 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:26.776 this day and age is a significant issue 00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:28.055 I did question 00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.736 whether if this was going to one of the 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:33.295 major players whether that would have to 00:36:33.319 --> 00:36:35.936 be built on constructed in a very timely 00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.536 manner instead of just sat on to to stop 00:36:38.560 --> 00:36:40.376 someone else getting in there I was 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:42.376 assured that that was the case that it 00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:44.896 would be given to someone who would 00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.656 develop the supermarket but but I 00:36:47.680 --> 00:36:49.256 take the point there are other players 00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.696 out there trying to get into the market 00:36:51.720 --> 00:36:54.496 and they're offering alternative pricing 00:36:54.520 --> 00:36:57.520 and indeed often alternative product and 00:36:57.640 --> 00:36:59.176 and a different means of putting the 00:36:59.200 --> 00:37:01.256 product on the Shelf as opposed to the 00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:03.776 two majors who require the conser to 00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.016 pay and the producer to also pay to get 00:37:06.040 --> 00:37:09.040 a space on the Shelf so so anything 00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:11.216 that gives the community an 00:37:11.240 --> 00:37:13.016 opportunity to comment on on their 00:37:13.040 --> 00:37:15.456 opinions on this I think is worthwhile 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:16.896 thank you councelor are there any other 00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:19.920 speakers for councelor mlan thanks 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:23.920 Madame Mayor and thank you for 00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:28.880 the for the amendment Council Cornell 00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:32.400 the I I fully support it because I 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:36.000 think it is a a great opportunity to 00:37:36.680 --> 00:37:38.335 hear from the community put it out there 00:37:38.359 --> 00:37:41.359 endorse obviously the the con the the 00:37:41.839 --> 00:37:44.536 minor Amendment to the DCP but to 00:37:44.560 --> 00:37:45.736 hear back from the community and hear 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:48.760 what they have to say about this we 00:37:49.720 --> 00:37:52.536 we want to give Community their say on 00:37:52.560 --> 00:37:55.295 that process and for that reason I look 00:37:55.319 --> 00:37:57.776 forward to it going on public exp and 00:37:57.800 --> 00:37:59.736 hearing the results in the coming 00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:02.095 month or so thank you thank you 00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:03.536 councelor are there any other speakers 00:38:03.560 --> 00:38:04.575 for the 00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:06.256 recommendation against the 00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.575 recommendation do we have any 00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:10.696 questions with that I put the 00:38:10.720 --> 00:38:12.295 recommendation forward all those in 00:38:12.319 --> 00:38:14.656 favor ananymous thank 00:38:14.680 --> 00:38:17.656 you on to item four pre-public 00:38:17.680 --> 00:38:19.856 exhibition revised local approvals 00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:22.456 policy we have a staff recommendation on 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.480 page 49 of the business paper do I have 00:38:25.839 --> 00:38:28.456 a motion counselors 00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:29.656 councilor 00:38:29.680 --> 00:38:32.616 Fedeli yes thank you Madame Mayor I'm 00:38:32.640 --> 00:38:34.896 supporting the way Ed is it's a review 00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:36.016 and something we're going to do after 00:38:36.040 --> 00:38:38.456 our eviction thanks supporting thank you 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:40.256 councelor are there any I'm going to 00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:43.280 call for a second or first councelor sui 00:38:44.160 --> 00:38:45.696 so councilor Fedeli take your 00:38:45.720 --> 00:38:48.720 comments as noted yep noted thank you do 00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:51.496 we have any speakers for the motion 00:38:51.520 --> 00:38:54.256 against the motion any questions with 00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:55.815 that I put the motion forward all those 00:38:55.839 --> 00:38:58.839 in favor unanimous thank you very 00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:02.696 much council's on to item five delivery 00:39:02.720 --> 00:39:04.616 program performance report July to 00:39:04.640 --> 00:39:06.776 December 20124 we have a staff 00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.656 recommendation on page 53 of tonight's 00:39:09.680 --> 00:39:12.680 business paper councilors do I have a 00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.416 motion councelor 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.616 quel would you like to move the staff 00:39:17.640 --> 00:39:19.976 recommendation yes please ad May do I 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.136 have a 00:39:22.160 --> 00:39:25.160 secondar councelor mlan over to you 00:39:25.359 --> 00:39:28.359 councelor quel 00:39:29.720 --> 00:39:31.815 I nothing to report just just happy for 00:39:31.839 --> 00:39:34.055 this to be tabled and as we keep 00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.095 tracking towards our goals thank you 00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:37.815 councelor quell are there any speakers 00:39:37.839 --> 00:39:40.839 for the motion against the motion do we 00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:43.016 have any 00:39:43.040 --> 00:39:44.815 questions with that I put the motion 00:39:44.839 --> 00:39:47.616 forward all those in favor unanimous 00:39:47.640 --> 00:39:48.335 thank 00:39:48.359 --> 00:39:51.359 you on to item six council's Enterprise 00:39:53.200 --> 00:39:55.136 risk management policy and framework we 00:39:55.160 --> 00:39:58.136 have a staff recommendation on page 55 00:39:58.160 --> 00:40:00.456 of tonight's business paper councilors 00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:02.656 do I have a motion this evening 00:40:02.680 --> 00:40:04.496 councelor 00:40:04.520 --> 00:40:06.496 mlan would you like to move the staff 00:40:06.520 --> 00:40:08.256 recommendation have to support the 00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:10.216 recommendation in the papers thank you 00:40:10.240 --> 00:40:11.536 councelor do I have a 00:40:11.560 --> 00:40:13.736 second councelor 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.760 sui over to you councelor mlan thanks 00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:19.536 Madame Mayor happy to support the motion 00:40:19.560 --> 00:40:22.560 which is essentially endorsing the 00:40:22.680 --> 00:40:25.016 or adopting sorry the Enterprise risk 00:40:25.040 --> 00:40:27.295 management policy and the risk 00:40:27.319 --> 00:40:30.176 management framework the the policy 00:40:30.200 --> 00:40:32.216 is incredibly important and it does 00:40:32.240 --> 00:40:35.240 obviously apply to elected counselors 00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:38.616 as well with their responsibilities 00:40:38.640 --> 00:40:40.536 listed in there which is a 00:40:40.560 --> 00:40:43.560 critical policy and docent the the 00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.815 framework I'm pleased to see that 00:40:46.839 --> 00:40:49.176 there's been a bit of I guess work 00:40:49.200 --> 00:40:52.200 done on clarifying the risk appetite 00:40:52.240 --> 00:40:54.095 which I think makes a little bit clearer 00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:57.119 for for everyone in where we where 00:40:59.160 --> 00:41:01.575 we're able to accept a tiny amount of 00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.295 risk and where we might have a little 00:41:03.319 --> 00:41:05.575 bit more appetite in other areas 00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:06.976 particularly ran Innovation which I 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:10.000 thought is very very important I 00:41:10.680 --> 00:41:11.496 think we still got to look at 00:41:11.520 --> 00:41:13.416 reputational risk because I think that's 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.295 not a not a risk but a consequence of 00:41:16.319 --> 00:41:17.616 not doing the right thing and it's a 00:41:17.640 --> 00:41:19.776 clearly a governance related thing but 00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:21.496 I'm not going to die in a ditch over 00:41:21.520 --> 00:41:23.696 it so happy to support it thank you 00:41:23.720 --> 00:41:25.295 thank you councilor mlan are there any 00:41:25.319 --> 00:41:27.896 speakers for the motion 00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.256 against do we have any 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:32.136 questions with that I put the motion 00:41:32.160 --> 00:41:34.696 forward all those in favor unanimous 00:41:34.720 --> 00:41:36.696 thank 00:41:36.720 --> 00:41:39.216 you on to item seven and at this 00:41:39.240 --> 00:41:41.295 point we'll wait for counselor Campbell 00:41:41.319 --> 00:41:44.319 to exit the 00:41:46.319 --> 00:41:48.936 chamber item seven this evening is 00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:51.055 community representation and terms of 00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:52.896 reference for advisory committees and 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.055 reference groups and we have a staff 00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:58.079 recommendation on page 50 00:42:17.160 --> 00:42:20.160 9 councilors do we have a 00:42:20.200 --> 00:42:22.136 motion councelor 00:42:22.160 --> 00:42:25.160 mlan would you like to move to sta 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:28.295 recommendation sorry thanks Madame Mayor 00:42:28.319 --> 00:42:31.319 almost I propose a very very slightly 00:42:31.680 --> 00:42:32.856 amended 00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:35.535 recommendation just to Simply exclude 00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.559 item one with unchanged 2 3 4 and 00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:45.400 five so that is to explicitly remove 00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:49.295 item one which is discontinue the active 00:42:49.319 --> 00:42:52.319 transport reference group 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:03.119 so just to confirm we just got to wait 00:43:03.319 --> 00:43:05.176 and see what we've got on the screen and 00:43:05.200 --> 00:43:06.335 once it's 00:43:06.359 --> 00:43:08.575 finished I'll have you 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:10.896 confirm that that's what the motion will 00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:13.535 be that is correct but to continue 00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:15.575 with everything else as listed because 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.216 those those groups need to get on 00:43:17.240 --> 00:43:19.335 with their important work okay at this 00:43:19.359 --> 00:43:22.359 stage I will ask for a 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:26.280 secondar as we don't have a secondar the 00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.599 Council Siri your second okay Council 00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:35.760 mlan sorry thanks Madame Mayor the 00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.216 yeah this I guess has been has been 00:43:39.240 --> 00:43:42.240 discussed previously the I guess 00:43:42.680 --> 00:43:45.680 from my point of view the evolution 00:43:47.680 --> 00:43:50.335 of the previous cycling advisory 00:43:50.359 --> 00:43:52.896 committee I certainly believe as an 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.920 active transport reference group is a 00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:58.055 really really important 00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:01.079 reference group for Camden I 00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:04.440 recognize that there was only one 00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:06.856 person that did apply for the group 00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.776 during its public exhibition in late 00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:10.936 December and 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:13.136 January but I don't want to give up 00:44:13.160 --> 00:44:16.160 hope on it because I do see many 00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:20.295 councils around the state not just 00:44:20.319 --> 00:44:22.456 in metropolitan areas and and out of 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:24.176 Greater cityy areas but some Regional 00:44:24.200 --> 00:44:25.976 cases as well where these committees do 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:28.016 get really positive 00:44:28.040 --> 00:44:29.736 Community 00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.416 engagement and I was only talking to 00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:35.440 a council officer in a a another Council 00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:38.256 the other day and they said it was just 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:41.280 a a perfect combination of having an 00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.599 elected official or two with senior 00:44:46.160 --> 00:44:48.376 staff and managers and the community 00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:50.936 that three tripartite I guess 00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:52.936 relationship come together and I 00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:54.095 certainly see that with our other 00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:56.696 reference groups which work well 00:44:56.720 --> 00:44:58.416 I'm not on all of them but I have seen 00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:00.696 them work in many cases very very 00:45:00.720 --> 00:45:03.696 positively to achieve that same outcome 00:45:03.720 --> 00:45:06.720 and I feel that well active transport 00:45:07.359 --> 00:45:10.359 is certainly not always the best word 00:45:10.640 --> 00:45:13.095 because it is essentially Mobility it's 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.696 essentially bicycle use it's essentially 00:45:15.720 --> 00:45:18.416 walking and for our community to be able 00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:21.095 to do that effectively is extremely 00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:22.976 important we do have some good 00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.736 bicycle and walking infrastructure in 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:28.335 this LGA it can be improved and it is 00:45:28.359 --> 00:45:31.295 being improved but I think not 00:45:31.319 --> 00:45:34.319 giving up hope and just discontinuing 00:45:34.520 --> 00:45:36.456 this reference group would be a bit of a 00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:39.176 crying shame and I certainly see that 00:45:39.200 --> 00:45:42.200 there's some ways of I guess adapting 00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:44.095 it whether it's changing the name but 00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.119 also going out to members of the 00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:49.776 community again at a later date once the 00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:51.776 dust settled on all the other groups 00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.256 would be a a valuable opportunity and 00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:56.976 certainly in speaking to some people 00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.000 very recently there's there's 00:46:00.319 --> 00:46:01.856 undoubtedly some people in the community 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:04.055 who would absolutely want to be on this 00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.535 on this reference group from school 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:09.559 PNC's to other residents and and the 00:46:10.040 --> 00:46:13.040 like so that is the reason for my 00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:16.256 amended 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:18.936 recommendation thank you counselor 00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:20.496 councilors tonight I'm going to move an 00:46:20.520 --> 00:46:23.520 amendment that we revert back to what's 00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:26.456 written in the business paper at this 00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:28.656 stage I'll ask for a 00:46:28.680 --> 00:46:31.680 seconder seconded councelor Ferreri 00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:33.936 thank you I'll just speak to the 00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:36.960 amendment so in terms of removing 00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:40.440 point one we had gone out for an 00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:43.295 expressions of interest within our 00:46:43.319 --> 00:46:45.176 community for not just the active 00:46:45.200 --> 00:46:47.535 transport reference group but for all of 00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:49.656 our Council committees and reference 00:46:49.680 --> 00:46:51.856 groups that we have during that 00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:53.575 expression of Interest process which I 00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:55.936 might add we ran from this the same 00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:57.976 length of time for all of them we 00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.656 managed to fill roles in all of the 00:47:00.680 --> 00:47:02.856 other ones except the active transport 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:05.880 reference group now that's not to say we 00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:07.656 shouldn't give active transport 00:47:07.680 --> 00:47:10.176 reference group a shot however I'd like 00:47:10.200 --> 00:47:12.856 to point out that this is actually a 00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:15.216 rebranding of a reference group that 00:47:15.240 --> 00:47:18.240 we've already had previously in the 00:47:18.640 --> 00:47:20.295 hopes that we would gain some sort of 00:47:20.319 --> 00:47:22.575 traction within the community to want to 00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:25.295 join the group 00:47:25.319 --> 00:47:27.335 and we 00:47:27.359 --> 00:47:29.496 had had no one on that reference group 00:47:29.520 --> 00:47:32.520 for 10 or 10 plus years so I think in 00:47:36.520 --> 00:47:39.520 terms of moving on with the business of 00:47:40.720 --> 00:47:42.496 having our reference groups and 00:47:42.520 --> 00:47:45.520 committees ready to go I just would 00:47:45.680 --> 00:47:47.896 prefer to discontinue the active 00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:50.416 transport reference group knowing full 00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:52.896 well that you know at any stage any 00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:54.696 of the people that Council mlan has 00:47:54.720 --> 00:47:57.456 referred to that wanted or Express an 00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.416 interest with him to join that group 00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.856 had that opportunity to put in an 00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.335 expression of Interest the same as all 00:48:05.359 --> 00:48:07.016 the other residents and community 00:48:07.040 --> 00:48:09.136 members that put in for all the other 00:48:09.160 --> 00:48:11.616 representative committees and 00:48:11.640 --> 00:48:14.456 reference groups that we have so I just 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:17.335 want to get on with the business of our 00:48:17.359 --> 00:48:19.055 committees our community committees and 00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:21.535 reference groups now this has been 00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:23.976 something that has been inactive for 10 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:25.736 plus years we thought the rebranding of 00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:28.256 it might give it another shot but 00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:31.176 unfortunately that's not the case so 00:48:31.200 --> 00:48:33.656 I would like to move the amendment that 00:48:33.680 --> 00:48:36.535 we discontinue the active transport 00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:39.559 reference group as written in the staff 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:42.136 recommendation are there any speakers 00:48:42.160 --> 00:48:43.535 for the 00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.176 amendment against the amendment 00:48:46.200 --> 00:48:47.535 councelor 00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.559 mlan I thanks Madame Mayor with 00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:54.055 respect I I disagree with the term 00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.079 Rebrand because the word Rebrand is 00:48:59.640 --> 00:49:02.640 very incorrect in terms of the cycling 00:49:03.319 --> 00:49:05.376 reference group it was purely cycling 00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.815 I was on it for a NUMBER of years we 00:49:07.839 --> 00:49:10.335 only discussed cycling we only discussed 00:49:10.359 --> 00:49:13.359 basically you know getting a cycle 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:18.599 activity occurring the active transport 00:49:18.839 --> 00:49:21.736 group is absolutely fundamentally 00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.616 about walking and 00:49:24.640 --> 00:49:26.856 bicycling it's about Mobility it's 00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:29.496 not about racing it's not about the the 00:49:29.520 --> 00:49:32.520 gra the the Lera clad mammals it's 00:49:34.720 --> 00:49:37.720 about all active people participating in 00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:40.736 bicycle riding and all active people of 00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:43.616 all mobilities participating in walking 00:49:43.640 --> 00:49:46.640 and and Mobility assisted 00:49:48.040 --> 00:49:50.176 transport and that's very very important 00:49:50.200 --> 00:49:51.815 to this community and will undoubtedly 00:49:51.839 --> 00:49:53.416 be part of this community into the 00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:56.440 future I knowe the the does need to 00:49:57.200 --> 00:50:00.136 be some word changes in the 00:50:00.160 --> 00:50:02.896 advertisement and I note there hasn't 00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:05.920 even been a terms of reference made 00:50:06.319 --> 00:50:09.319 up for this group so I don't think 00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:13.896 we've given it a full shot I don't think 00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:16.736 we have and I'm not I'm not seeking 00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:18.575 to change anything because I do not want 00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:20.496 to under any circstances hold anything 00:50:20.520 --> 00:50:23.095 up because that's not what this is 00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.775 about it's simply just to keep this one 00:50:25.799 --> 00:50:28.055 ticking along and look at it at a future 00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.256 date move on with everything else 00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:31.736 because that's critically important and 00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:34.760 I I don't under any circstances 00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:37.815 want to hold any of those other four 00:50:37.839 --> 00:50:40.839 points up thank you thank you councilor 00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:43.216 mlan are there any other speakers for 00:50:43.240 --> 00:50:44.216 the 00:50:44.240 --> 00:50:46.216 amendment against the amendment 00:50:46.240 --> 00:50:48.456 councilor 00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:51.480 Suri thank you Madame Mayor yeah looking 00:50:51.640 --> 00:50:54.640 at the importance of this active 00:50:54.720 --> 00:50:57.535 transport reference group 00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.559 I think it should be given another 00:51:00.680 --> 00:51:03.616 shot because it's about the safety of 00:51:03.640 --> 00:51:06.640 the residents it's about and we are in 00:51:06.799 --> 00:51:08.456 we are in the growth stage where a lot 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:10.976 of infrastructure work is happening of 00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:13.055 New Roads and 00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:16.079 so not having this active transport 00:51:16.240 --> 00:51:18.896 reference group I think it it can 00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:20.896 impact on the safety of the resident so 00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:23.376 I would like to give it another shot I 00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:26.016 agree that we did not get any 00:51:26.040 --> 00:51:27.295 expression of interest from the 00:51:27.319 --> 00:51:30.319 residents I can get because the most 00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:33.136 of the the advertisements came out 00:51:33.160 --> 00:51:35.896 during Christmas time and people were 00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:37.696 traveling so that is just giving a 00:51:37.720 --> 00:51:40.095 benefit of Doubt to that maybe that's a 00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:42.256 reason but looking at the importance and 00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:43.896 it's concerned with the safety of 00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:46.920 residents I agree with councelor mcleen 00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:49.535 that it should be given a second shot 00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:51.856 thank you thank you councelor Siri 00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:54.535 are there any other speakers for the 00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:57.559 amendment against the amendment 00:51:57.640 --> 00:51:58.896 are there any 00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:01.335 questions I have a question Mr 00:52:01.359 --> 00:52:03.575 general manager could I just have a 00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:06.376 clarification on the time frame of the 00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:09.376 expression of interest for our advisory 00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:12.400 groups yes I'll direct this to 00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.480 director customer and corporate 00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:26.880 strategy 21st of November through to the 00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:29.920 27th of 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:33.000 January thank you are there any other 00:52:33.520 --> 00:52:36.520 questions Council mlan your right of 00:52:40.160 --> 00:52:43.160 reply I I note all of that 00:52:44.200 --> 00:52:46.936 information including the dates are 00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:48.936 listed in our Council 00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:51.960 papers again I respectfully 00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:55.136 disagree that 00:52:55.160 --> 00:52:57.095 we are 00:52:57.119 --> 00:53:00.119 seeking to Rebrand and revive an old 00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:02.896 committee it's not an old committee at 00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:05.920 all it's a brand new committee 00:53:06.319 --> 00:53:08.055 it's it's really 00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:11.079 important for our our connectivity 00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:14.295 our community our health our 00:53:14.319 --> 00:53:17.319 environment of course and it's it's 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:21.000 absolutely not a Rebrand it is a new 00:53:21.160 --> 00:53:24.055 committee focusing on getting people 00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:27.079 healthy active mobile it's about 00:53:28.799 --> 00:53:31.136 addressing people with all helping 00:53:31.160 --> 00:53:34.160 people of all abilities and ages to 00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:37.216 connect and engage with their community 00:53:37.240 --> 00:53:39.936 and it is absolutely all about 00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:42.176 primarily about walking of which we all 00:53:42.200 --> 00:53:45.200 are we're all pedestrians as our 00:53:46.240 --> 00:53:48.055 primary forms of Mobility whether we 00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:51.079 know it or not so that pedestrian and 00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:54.815 walkability side of things was 00:53:54.839 --> 00:53:57.575 absolutely not included in the previous 00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:00.599 reference group nor was it considered 00:54:00.640 --> 00:54:03.640 and that is very very important to 00:54:04.200 --> 00:54:06.896 our community in its rapid growth and 00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:09.920 development going forward the the 00:54:11.040 --> 00:54:13.696 reference groups in in other councils 00:54:13.720 --> 00:54:16.720 that I'm aware of pick up vital 00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:19.856 amendments and improvements in 00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:22.216 changes and developments in their 00:54:22.240 --> 00:54:25.240 local Council areas and it would be a a 00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:28.760 real shame for us to I guess miss 00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:33.616 out on Overlook and and not 00:54:33.640 --> 00:54:35.295 understand some of the opportunities 00:54:35.319 --> 00:54:37.856 which could be taken advantage of 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:39.136 many of them will happen anyway of 00:54:39.160 --> 00:54:41.335 course but many of them are picked up 00:54:41.359 --> 00:54:43.295 by some of these reference groups as 00:54:43.319 --> 00:54:45.976 does our heritage Advisory Group as does 00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:48.256 our seniors reference group and our 00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:49.736 various other reference groups pick up 00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:52.216 on those really really vital points 00:54:52.240 --> 00:54:53.976 in our community to make it a more 00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:54.976 thriving 00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:57.936 Community leave you with that thanks 00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.216 thank you councelor mlan so to be 00:55:00.240 --> 00:55:02.456 clear councilors we're now voting on the 00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:05.480 amendment I've seen on the screen before 00:55:06.640 --> 00:55:09.136 us with that I put the re the 00:55:09.160 --> 00:55:12.160 amendment forward all those in 00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.760 favor councelor Ashley Kagney councelor 00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:19.079 Ramen councelor quel councelor Ferreri 00:55:19.720 --> 00:55:22.720 councelor s Sicari and councilor Fedeli 00:55:22.799 --> 00:55:25.799 the amendment is carried so the motion 00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:28.815 now now stands as is before us here on 00:55:28.839 --> 00:55:30.535 the screen that we discontinue the 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:33.256 active transport reference group appoint 00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:35.535 Community Representatives as members of 00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:38.095 the respective advisory committees and 00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:40.535 reference groups in accordance with the 00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:42.095 proposed nominations outline in 00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.216 attachment one that we write to each 00:55:44.240 --> 00:55:46.335 person who submitted an expression of 00:55:46.359 --> 00:55:48.936 interest to join an advisory committee 00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:50.976 or reference group thanking them for the 00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:52.775 application and informing them of the 00:55:52.799 --> 00:55:55.095 outcome we write to each Community 00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:57.176 representative who was a member of the 00:55:57.200 --> 00:55:59.055 advisory committee or reference group 00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:01.095 during the previous term of council 00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:02.856 thanking them for their contribution and 00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:05.456 that we endorsed the customiz sorry the 00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:07.535 customized terms of reference for each 00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:09.896 advisory committee and reference group 00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:11.896 provided at 00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:14.896 attachment 12 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:17.376 yes all right so that now becomes the 00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:20.015 motion I'll move that way do we have 00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:21.416 a 00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:24.440 seconder councelor Ferreri are there any 00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:28.079 I'll just quickly speak to it in 00:56:28.160 --> 00:56:30.295 terms of what we are doing as a council 00:56:30.319 --> 00:56:33.319 to promote and ensure that active 00:56:33.960 --> 00:56:36.960 transport within our LGA is not only 00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:40.616 fit for our current Community but we'll 00:56:40.640 --> 00:56:43.295 be thriving into the future I think is 00:56:43.319 --> 00:56:45.936 extremely commendable it is certainly 00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:47.896 a focus and a priority of this Council 00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:50.920 and has been since my time on Council 00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:52.775 and I'd like to thank the council staff 00:56:52.799 --> 00:56:54.696 for all they currently do in that space 00:56:54.720 --> 00:56:56.575 whether we have a reference group to 00:56:56.599 --> 00:56:59.456 that effect or not do I have any 00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:01.416 speakers for the 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:03.856 motion against the 00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:05.896 motion with that I put the motion 00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:07.535 forward all those in 00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:10.456 favor councelor Ashley Kagney councelor 00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:12.936 Ramen councelor quell councel Ferreri 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.960 councelor Sicari councelor fideli those 00:57:16.240 --> 00:57:19.240 against councelor mlan and councelor sui 00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:22.176 the motion is carried we'll now wait for 00:57:22.200 --> 00:57:25.200 councelor Campbell to return 00:57:51.160 --> 00:57:53.976 we're on to item eight Australian local 00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:56.216 government Association National General 00:57:56.240 --> 00:57:58.496 assembly 00:57:58.520 --> 00:58:01.496 2025 we have a staff recommendation on 00:58:01.520 --> 00:58:04.520 page 63 to 00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:08.880 64 councilors do I have a 00:58:09.240 --> 00:58:12.055 motion councilor 00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:14.295 Fedeli would you like to move the staff 00:58:14.319 --> 00:58:16.575 recommendation yes thanks thank you do I 00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.599 have a second Council of quel Council of 00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:22.856 fidelia over to you thank you 00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:25.880 Madame Mayor I'm happy to support this 00:58:26.319 --> 00:58:28.936 we are fortunate to go to this I 00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:31.176 think it's our third time the knowledge 00:58:31.200 --> 00:58:34.200 there is great to mix and find out 00:58:34.319 --> 00:58:36.256 what's happening around with all the 00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:38.896 other councils I'm happy with all the 00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:41.095 Motions that we'll be bringing so they 00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:44.119 they've really been looked into and 00:58:44.359 --> 00:58:46.896 can't wait to be there thanks thank you 00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:48.496 councilor fideli are there any other 00:58:48.520 --> 00:58:50.176 speakers for the 00:58:50.200 --> 00:58:53.200 motion against do we have any 00:58:53.520 --> 00:58:55.535 questions we that I put the motion 00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:57.176 forward or those in 00:58:57.200 --> 00:59:00.200 favor unanimous thank 00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:05.280 you item nine appointment of independent 00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:07.456 member chairperson audit risk and 00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:10.136 Improvement committee there's a staff 00:59:10.160 --> 00:59:13.160 recommendation on page 68 councilor do I 00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:14.976 have a 00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:17.775 motion councilor Fedeli would you like 00:59:17.799 --> 00:59:19.496 to move the staff recommendation do I 00:59:19.520 --> 00:59:20.616 have a 00:59:20.640 --> 00:59:23.416 second councelor Ferreri councelor F 00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:26.295 Deli over to you 00:59:26.319 --> 00:59:28.295 Oh I thought you said councelor 00:59:28.319 --> 00:59:31.319 Ferreri did oh okay I did I thought I 00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:33.496 was second did 00:59:33.520 --> 00:59:36.520 it thank you Madame Mayor we we 00:59:37.200 --> 00:59:39.575 had the privilege of of having I can't 00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:41.176 think of her saying name Elizabeth on 00:59:41.200 --> 00:59:43.616 this committee she did a great job it's 00:59:43.640 --> 00:59:46.640 a shame we couldn't extend her time 00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:49.760 but again we've gone out and an 00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:51.696 expression and I think we've got another 00:59:51.720 --> 00:59:54.376 excellent one for this committee thanks 00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:55.736 thank you counselor are there any other 00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:58.760 speak speakers for the motion 00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:01.775 against do we have any questions with 01:00:01.799 --> 01:00:03.456 that I put the motion forward all those 01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:06.480 in favor unanimous thank 01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:10.119 you on to item 10 acceptance of grant 01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:12.815 funding saving our species program 01:00:12.839 --> 01:00:15.055 Camden white g we have a staff 01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:17.416 recommendation on page 70 do I have a 01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:20.416 motion counselors councelor 01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:22.896 mlan thanks Madame Mayor very happy 01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:25.920 to endorse the recommendation as 01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:28.696 listed three items in our do we have a 01:00:28.720 --> 01:00:31.720 second thank you councel mlan councelor 01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:34.976 sui over to you councelor 01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:38.000 mlan very happy to support this 01:00:38.680 --> 01:00:41.335 recommendation noting we have we've 01:00:41.359 --> 01:00:43.456 received similar successful grants for 01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:46.480 this same project in the past for the 01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:50.119 Majestic Candon white g 01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:54.599 eucalyptus benay it's a amazing 01:00:55.160 --> 01:00:58.160 incredible and rare in dangered 01:00:58.720 --> 01:01:01.720 species and it's it's so amazing to 01:01:02.160 --> 01:01:04.176 see so much of it growing in our own 01:01:04.200 --> 01:01:06.896 LGA many of the locations I'm not 01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:08.616 familiar with all of them but a NUMBER 01:01:08.640 --> 01:01:10.535 of them are certainly heavily weeded so 01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:13.559 this Grant will help to address 01:01:14.200 --> 01:01:16.015 that challenge and and give this 01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:18.095 species its best opportunity going 01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:20.575 forward thank you thank you Council mlan 01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:23.599 are there any speakers for the motion 01:01:23.640 --> 01:01:26.616 against do we have any questions 01:01:26.640 --> 01:01:27.976 with that I put the motion forward all 01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:29.216 those in 01:01:29.240 --> 01:01:31.856 favor unanimous thank 01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:34.880 you on to item 11 minutes to the 27 01:01:35.400 --> 01:01:38.176 November 2024 audit risk and Improvement 01:01:38.200 --> 01:01:39.616 committee meeting we have a staff 01:01:39.640 --> 01:01:42.616 recommendation on page 72 councilors do 01:01:42.640 --> 01:01:44.815 I have a motion councilor Fedeli would 01:01:44.839 --> 01:01:46.095 you like to move what's recommended by 01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:48.376 the staff yes madame Mayor do I have a 01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:51.400 second councilor sirri councelor Fedeli 01:01:51.520 --> 01:01:53.295 I'm happy to support the recommendation 01:01:53.319 --> 01:01:54.496 thank you councelor do I have any 01:01:54.520 --> 01:01:56.736 speakers for the recommendation 01:01:56.760 --> 01:01:58.136 against the 01:01:58.160 --> 01:02:01.136 recommendation do I have any questions 01:02:01.160 --> 01:02:02.696 with that I put the recommendation 01:02:02.720 --> 01:02:05.255 forward all those in favor unanimous 01:02:05.279 --> 01:02:08.279 thank you on to item 12 investment 01:02:08.720 --> 01:02:11.416 monies January 2025 we have a staff 01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:14.440 recommendation on page 73 Council I have 01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:17.960 a motion this evening councilor Campbell 01:02:18.799 --> 01:02:20.535 move as recommended in the business 01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:22.616 paper thank you councelor do I have a 01:02:22.640 --> 01:02:24.815 second councelor Fedeli councelor 01:02:24.839 --> 01:02:27.839 Campbell over to you 01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:30.856 just to acknowledge the role that 01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:33.376 Miss Elizabeth gavy who has been the 01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:36.335 chair of that committee has played in 01:02:36.359 --> 01:02:39.359 the short very short time that 01:02:40.279 --> 01:02:43.279 I've been an alternate on that 01:02:43.520 --> 01:02:45.976 committee to sorry just to clarify 01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:48.936 councelor Campbell we're on to item 01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:51.616 12 investment money January no you're 01:02:51.640 --> 01:02:53.696 right well I'll move that one why not 01:02:53.720 --> 01:02:56.720 you'll move it excellent thank you go go 01:02:59.359 --> 01:03:02.359 ahead you're all good no comments okay 01:03:02.799 --> 01:03:05.799 do we have any speakers for the motion 01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:08.295 against do we have any 01:03:08.319 --> 01:03:10.216 questions with that I put the motion 01:03:10.240 --> 01:03:12.736 forward all those in favor unanimous 01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:15.376 thank 01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:18.400 you okay on to item 13 notice of motion 01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:20.656 Studley 01:03:20.680 --> 01:03:23.680 Park we have a recommendation on page 74 01:03:25.799 --> 01:03:27.936 Council mlan as the notice of motion is 01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:30.496 yours you're happy to move that way do 01:03:30.520 --> 01:03:32.176 we have a second 01:03:32.200 --> 01:03:33.976 off 01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:36.575 coun anyone councelor 01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:39.599 Campbell councelor mlan over to 01:03:40.520 --> 01:03:43.520 you thanks May and thank you to 01:03:44.839 --> 01:03:46.936 Joe O Brien from the Historic Society 01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:49.960 for coming to talk to us certainly 01:03:50.640 --> 01:03:53.640 an expert in this area I I I have 01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:58.255 also heard sufficient Community 01:03:58.279 --> 01:04:00.376 concerned from a NUMBER of different 01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.496 individuals and parties and as a 01:04:02.520 --> 01:04:05.520 counselor I quite simply just want to 01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:08.255 request and ask for some further 01:04:08.279 --> 01:04:11.136 information on behalf of the community 01:04:11.160 --> 01:04:14.160 regarding this really important site 01:04:15.359 --> 01:04:17.936 it is obviously an important site for 01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:20.960 a NUMBER of reasons in that it is 01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:24.440 significant historic value and and 01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:27.255 impact and importance but 01:04:27.279 --> 01:04:29.856 environmentally as well and is 01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:32.095 obviously an incredibly loved and valued 01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:34.176 community space at the same time 01:04:34.200 --> 01:04:37.200 by all members of the community and 01:04:37.680 --> 01:04:40.680 it is arguably one of the biggest and 01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:45.440 Littlest known local state and federal 01:04:45.680 --> 01:04:48.680 development issue in this area in 01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:53.400 that it has had all levels and does have 01:04:53.680 --> 01:04:55.656 all levels of government involved in 01:04:55.680 --> 01:04:58.680 ious forms and legislative 01:04:59.640 --> 01:05:02.095 requirements in the past and 01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:05.055 currently as well so for that purpose 01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:08.079 I we have simply requested a 01:05:09.359 --> 01:05:11.736 Council briefing in the coming weeks 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:13.775 to convey further background and updates 01:05:13.799 --> 01:05:16.535 and next steps more importantly after 01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:18.775 the planning panel's determination 01:05:18.799 --> 01:05:21.799 for Studley Park thank you thank you 01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:24.216 councilor McLean are there any speakers 01:05:24.240 --> 01:05:27.216 to the recommendation 01:05:27.240 --> 01:05:29.055 councilor 01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:32.079 Campbell I too have had some concerns 01:05:34.240 --> 01:05:37.240 about this development proposal my 01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:41.119 concerns are around the role that 01:05:41.160 --> 01:05:44.095 Council has as a continuous entity 01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:46.535 regardless of the elected members who 01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:49.559 happen to be here at any particular time 01:05:49.720 --> 01:05:52.720 and I have the advantage of having been 01:05:53.359 --> 01:05:56.335 on the 95 99 01:05:56.359 --> 01:05:59.359 9599 Council when this was very much 01:05:59.799 --> 01:06:02.055 a topic of discussion and indeed 01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:04.055 councelor John Murray who played an 01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:06.976 absolutely critical role in securing 01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:10.000 this lease was in fact a counselor in 01:06:10.279 --> 01:06:12.656 that first Council that I was on I 01:06:12.680 --> 01:06:15.680 learned a lot from him basically so 01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:18.856 I've heard this talked about since I 01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:20.736 first got to council because it was 01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:23.760 during the 1991 to 995 Council that this 01:06:25.640 --> 01:06:28.640 property was given entrusted to counsel 01:06:29.160 --> 01:06:32.160 for for the community basically now 01:06:34.799 --> 01:06:37.799 as is my habit I've been asking many 01:06:37.839 --> 01:06:39.896 questions about the proposed development 01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:42.015 as the offices of council are well trly 01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:45.039 aware and I've taken the small criticism 01:06:45.680 --> 01:06:48.055 that you know councilors no longer have 01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:50.376 the right to vote on on determined 01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:53.400 development applications but I view that 01:06:54.359 --> 01:06:56.176 as a representative of the of the 01:06:56.200 --> 01:06:59.055 community if I'm not asking questions 01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:01.936 and pursuing matters that are of concern 01:07:01.960 --> 01:07:04.015 to both myself and the community then 01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:05.696 I'm not fulfilling the role that I was 01:07:05.720 --> 01:07:08.015 elected to do as a counselor so the poor 01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:10.095 old officers have to put up with my 01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:13.119 questions I think we do need to have 01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:16.015 a briefing on this so we know exactly 01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:18.015 where we we stand as I said I've been 01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:20.856 doing my own research and that's now the 01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:22.815 subject of questions that I'm composing 01:07:22.839 --> 01:07:25.839 to fire at the general manager soon 01:07:26.799 --> 01:07:29.799 so they're coming Andrew more of them 01:07:30.160 --> 01:07:31.936 I think we do 01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:34.960 where's the the environmental issue of 01:07:35.160 --> 01:07:37.736 the critically endangered Flora on the 01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:40.760 site there's there are access 01:07:41.279 --> 01:07:44.015 concerns there are there's the 01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:47.039 Heritage concern the 01:07:47.559 --> 01:07:50.559 community the informed Community is 01:07:51.720 --> 01:07:54.015 pretty upset about a lot of this and I 01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:56.535 think as Council as we need to be on top 01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:58.736 of exactly what's happening and what 01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:00.856 will happen in the future otherwise I 01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:02.936 don't think we're doing our job 01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:05.255 properly are there any other speakers 01:08:05.279 --> 01:08:07.136 for the 01:08:07.160 --> 01:08:09.535 motion 01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:12.376 against do we have any questions 01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:13.416 councilor 01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:15.456 Fedeli councelor 01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:18.480 mlan you wanted this Bo to council for a 01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:22.520 briefing after the Sydney Weston 01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:25.096 planning panel do you know the date of 01:08:25.120 --> 01:08:27.215 that 01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:30.239 Council mclan the date of the planning 01:08:30.839 --> 01:08:33.839 panel the planning panel's already yeah 01:08:34.040 --> 01:08:37.040 yeah and there's been no answer it's 01:08:37.120 --> 01:08:40.120 what's do you know what it's up to so 01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:42.456 when it comes to us for a 01:08:42.480 --> 01:08:44.496 briefing what 01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:47.520 yeah well it's been determined so but 01:08:47.839 --> 01:08:49.775 I'm asking for further information and 01:08:49.799 --> 01:08:52.799 next steps as part of the briefing 01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:55.880 yeah and through you 01:08:56.719 --> 01:08:59.719 Madame Mayor if it's been approved how 01:08:59.880 --> 01:09:02.655 do where do we stand there if we have 01:09:02.679 --> 01:09:04.815 this briefing I'm not saying I'm happy 01:09:04.839 --> 01:09:07.839 to have the briefing but I 01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:10.456 just yeah I understand your sentiment 01:09:10.480 --> 01:09:12.376 Council of Fedeli in terms of the fact 01:09:12.400 --> 01:09:13.936 that it's been determined already 01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:16.016 there's not really much we can do from a 01:09:16.040 --> 01:09:18.135 council perspective other than be 01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:21.159 informed so Mr general manager would 01:09:21.400 --> 01:09:23.896 you like to refer that onto your staff 01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:26.920 sure Council just would say that 01:09:27.120 --> 01:09:29.255 yes the development application has 01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:30.496 already been 01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:33.520 determined there would still be some 01:09:33.799 --> 01:09:35.896 questions about what happens with the 01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:38.920 site in what sequence and Council has 01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:41.416 some continuing role given there's some 01:09:41.440 --> 01:09:43.335 access arrangements and things like that 01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:45.815 that pertain to the development I'm not 01:09:45.839 --> 01:09:48.255 sure if our director of planning 01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:50.496 environment can add to that but there's 01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:52.135 there's certainly probably still some 01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:53.936 questions around final access 01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:56.576 arrangements and Det like that to to 01:09:56.600 --> 01:09:58.776 deal with the 01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:01.736 site yeah through the general manager 01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:03.256 that's correct I don't really have 01:10:03.280 --> 01:10:05.416 anything further further to add the 01:10:05.440 --> 01:10:06.816 panel made a decision think it was 01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:08.896 December at the meeting terms of the the 01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:10.336 regional panel so the development 01:10:10.360 --> 01:10:12.655 application itself has been 01:10:12.679 --> 01:10:14.536 determined the next steps immediately 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:16.175 would be in the hands of the applicant 01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:18.976 now in terms of U progressing it but 01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:21.096 Council would still have a role in a in 01:10:21.120 --> 01:10:23.736 a property sense because of our 01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:25.856 responsibility with the with the where 01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:27.856 the access road 01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:30.536 is was that our briefing do we just have 01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:33.536 it do we need this I was kidding do 01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:36.560 we have any other questions councelor 01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:39.776 quell thank you Madame May H just a 01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:42.496 question to councilor mle is there a 01:10:42.520 --> 01:10:44.776 reason why you put the date the 8th of 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:47.496 April just as you would know we're we're 01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:49.456 right in the middle of budget workshops 01:10:49.480 --> 01:10:51.376 and we'll have be having a lot of 01:10:51.400 --> 01:10:54.056 briefings between now and that meeting 01:10:54.080 --> 01:10:56.056 the reason for they can we push out a 01:10:56.080 --> 01:10:59.016 date by to to May or maybe 01:10:59.040 --> 01:11:01.976 June councelor 01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:05.000 mlan the it's it's something that's 01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:07.695 obviously the information is already 01:11:07.719 --> 01:11:10.719 there so as it's been determined so I 01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:13.296 I felt it was probably not something 01:11:13.320 --> 01:11:15.456 that would take a significant amount 01:11:15.480 --> 01:11:18.480 of time and is indeed in another area 01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:21.800 of council with with less budgetary 01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:25.695 pressures I guess on them at the moment 01:11:25.719 --> 01:11:28.695 I'm not I'm not I'm not certainly 01:11:28.719 --> 01:11:30.976 fuss if it's a little bit later than the 01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:33.655 than the 8th of of April but 01:11:33.679 --> 01:11:35.856 certainly I think June would be a 01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:38.880 little bit too 01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:43.056 extended Council mlan would you be 01:11:43.080 --> 01:11:45.896 happy to amend your recommendation to 01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:48.920 say or at the nearest possible date to a 01:11:52.760 --> 01:11:55.760 April yes 01:11:55.920 --> 01:11:58.296 and second which was councelor 01:11:58.320 --> 01:12:00.336 Campbell you happy with that perfect 01:12:00.360 --> 01:12:03.360 okay 01:12:07.040 --> 01:12:10.040 oh you guys are quick well done 01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:12.096 you're okay with that councelor mlan 01:12:12.120 --> 01:12:15.120 just double check the 01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:21.336 screen yes that's fine thank you perfect 01:12:21.360 --> 01:12:23.615 thank you okay do we have any other 01:12:23.639 --> 01:12:25.776 speakers for against any question 01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:28.336 questions with that oh councelor mlan 01:12:28.360 --> 01:12:30.496 would you like a write a 01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:33.520 reply no I look forward to hopefully 01:12:33.719 --> 01:12:35.336 being supported and getting some further 01:12:35.360 --> 01:12:36.695 information thank you thank you 01:12:36.719 --> 01:12:38.856 counselor with that I put the motion 01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:41.655 forward all those in favor unanimous 01:12:41.679 --> 01:12:42.896 thank 01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:45.920 you on to item 14 notice of 01:12:46.960 --> 01:12:49.215 motion Leppington Public School 01:12:49.239 --> 01:12:51.816 children Crossing there is a 01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:54.576 recommendation on page 75 this notice of 01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:55.936 motion has been being brought to us By 01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:57.655 councelor Ramen are you happy to move 01:12:57.679 --> 01:13:00.496 that way councelor y I'll ask for a 01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:03.520 secondar councelor ferari councelor 01:13:04.280 --> 01:13:07.280 Ramen over to you thank you Madame 01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:10.920 May the safety of our children is 01:13:11.159 --> 01:13:13.776 Paramount we must take immediate action 01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:16.800 to ensure they can safely work to school 01:13:17.679 --> 01:13:20.496 regardless of future Road upgrades our 01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:22.936 community's commitment to protecting our 01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:25.655 children's well-being is essential 01:13:25.679 --> 01:13:27.536 the current lack of safe Crossing 01:13:27.560 --> 01:13:29.496 options for students at lippington 01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:32.520 Public School poses a significant risk 01:13:32.920 --> 01:13:35.336 every day that passes without adequate 01:13:35.360 --> 01:13:37.736 safety measures increases the risk to 01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:40.576 our children who deserve a secure 01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:43.600 environment while walking to school 01:13:43.719 --> 01:13:45.695 while we understand that road upgrades 01:13:45.719 --> 01:13:48.376 are in in the pipeline the timeline for 01:13:48.400 --> 01:13:51.135 such project is not conducive to the 01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:54.135 immediate needs of our young students 01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:56.256 therefore I recommend that 01:13:56.280 --> 01:13:59.280 Council V vesly Advocate to the state 01:14:01.239 --> 01:14:03.736 government for the provision of safe 01:14:03.760 --> 01:14:06.056 Crossing solutions for children 01:14:06.080 --> 01:14:08.416 traveling to lipington Public School 01:14:08.440 --> 01:14:10.655 investigate the implementation of 01:14:10.679 --> 01:14:13.615 temporary safety measures to immediately 01:14:13.639 --> 01:14:15.135 address the 01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:17.736 issues and regularly update the 01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:20.376 community regarding progress of advocacy 01:14:20.400 --> 01:14:23.400 efforts let's work together to ensure 01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:26.175 that our children can walk to school 01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:29.016 without fear and that we are talking all 01:14:29.040 --> 01:14:31.856 NE we are taking all necessary steps to 01:14:31.880 --> 01:14:34.615 protect our future Generations thank you 01:14:34.639 --> 01:14:36.576 Madame Mayor thank you councelor Ramen 01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:38.776 are there any other speakers for the 01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:40.896 motion councelor 01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:43.376 Ferreri thank you Madame 01:14:43.400 --> 01:14:46.400 May yeah I I wholeheartedly support 01:14:46.639 --> 01:14:49.416 this motion I have a first first and 01:14:49.440 --> 01:14:52.016 experience in that I grew up in that 01:14:52.040 --> 01:14:54.376 area and it's it's changed a lot over 01:14:54.400 --> 01:14:55.736 the years when I grew up there we 01:14:55.760 --> 01:14:57.776 probably didn't need this but you 01:14:57.800 --> 01:14:59.936 know I've seen it's it's it's Evolution 01:14:59.960 --> 01:15:02.856 it's growth and and I think it's it's 01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:04.576 it's very important that we put the 01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:06.416 safety of the Community First and in 01:15:06.440 --> 01:15:08.695 particular you know our most vulnerable 01:15:08.719 --> 01:15:11.719 so I support it thank you very much 01:15:12.280 --> 01:15:14.336 counselor are there any other speakers 01:15:14.360 --> 01:15:15.695 for the 01:15:15.719 --> 01:15:18.719 motion against councelor Campbell I'm 01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:22.496 thank you Madame Mayor now I don't want 01:15:22.520 --> 01:15:24.215 to be misunderstood here because 01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:26.615 children say safety everyone's safety 01:15:26.639 --> 01:15:29.175 actually is Paramount 01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:31.536 however Council officers have been 01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:34.560 working on this continuously for to my 01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:38.840 certain knowledge over well over a year 01:15:39.639 --> 01:15:42.639 because I was approached early last year 01:15:43.719 --> 01:15:46.655 by a a person who lives in Elders Le 01:15:46.679 --> 01:15:49.096 just near me who was a relief teaching 01:15:49.120 --> 01:15:50.736 at the school and he nearly got taken 01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:53.736 out by bus that's where all my knowledge 01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:56.760 comes from about the school and I must 01:15:57.120 --> 01:15:58.736 admit 01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:01.760 that coun director queca reminded me 01:16:02.320 --> 01:16:04.695 today that I when the first information 01:16:04.719 --> 01:16:06.896 came through that I turned around and 01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:09.920 said I wanted schools infrastructure 01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:12.960 pressed completely before somebody gets 01:16:13.120 --> 01:16:15.135 splattered into the ashev in front of 01:16:15.159 --> 01:16:17.496 their school and that is what I said too 01:16:17.520 --> 01:16:19.416 and thankfully she knows me well enough 01:16:19.440 --> 01:16:21.175 to know that that wasn't a criticism of 01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:24.199 her staff but of school's infrastructure 01:16:24.639 --> 01:16:27.639 now now I had prepared an alternate 01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:29.856 motion which actually goes to the heart 01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:32.456 of this matter and that's who's 01:16:32.480 --> 01:16:34.615 responsible for the safety of the 01:16:34.639 --> 01:16:37.215 students down at that school and who's 01:16:37.239 --> 01:16:39.976 also responsible for paying and we've 01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:43.000 been pursuing improving the situation 01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:46.760 as it exists which has included Council 01:16:47.120 --> 01:16:49.576 officers going way above their 01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:52.600 responsibility levels above and beyond 01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:54.215 basically and for that there to be 01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:55.936 congratulated 01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:58.960 by putting in a foot paath for a 01:16:59.719 --> 01:17:02.175 kilometer down from the railway station 01:17:02.199 --> 01:17:04.296 putting in more foot path in one 01:17:04.320 --> 01:17:07.320 particular area doing a whole lot of 01:17:08.080 --> 01:17:11.080 things to try and improve the safety now 01:17:11.679 --> 01:17:14.056 for all of that that's been focusing on 01:17:14.080 --> 01:17:16.776 Rickard Road and I learned to my 01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:19.655 surprise tonight which more or less 01:17:19.679 --> 01:17:22.296 makes my Amendment redundant to a 01:17:22.320 --> 01:17:25.320 certain degree but I learned toight 01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:28.416 that the whole plan for that area will 01:17:28.440 --> 01:17:30.695 actually take the school entrance off 01:17:30.719 --> 01:17:32.655 Ricard Road all together and will swing 01:17:32.679 --> 01:17:35.679 it round onto another road so I have an 01:17:36.320 --> 01:17:38.695 amendment which we're going to look at 01:17:38.719 --> 01:17:40.856 if if if do you want me to read it out 01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:43.880 now is this it is this it pre it's 01:17:45.040 --> 01:17:46.936 changed because there's new information 01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:49.776 to hand all right just take it slow 01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:51.856 for the minute take us and so it would 01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:53.816 be that Council write to the New South 01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:56.016 Wales Minister for education Early 01:17:56.040 --> 01:17:59.040 Learning M Slow Down slow down slow down 01:17:59.239 --> 01:18:00.856 well that's the same Miss PR I'll slow 01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:03.880 down when I change it m PR carmp to 01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:06.336 schools infrastructure and as a courtesy 01:18:06.360 --> 01:18:09.135 to the member of Camden Miss s coril 01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:11.016 calling on the state government to 01:18:11.040 --> 01:18:14.040 immediately release funding to allow the 01:18:15.719 --> 01:18:18.719 necessary detailed design 01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:23.159 work and ultimate Construction 01:18:25.320 --> 01:18:28.320 of the indent 01:18:29.280 --> 01:18:32.280 Bays yeah for buses and kiss and 01:18:35.040 --> 01:18:38.040 drop and the raised pedestrian Crossing 01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:40.416 oh okay sorry that's already there and 01:18:40.440 --> 01:18:43.440 the raised pedestrian Crossing on the 01:18:44.040 --> 01:18:46.976 appropriate Street for the safety of the 01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:48.496 student staff and community at 01:18:48.520 --> 01:18:51.520 Leppington Public School now the next 01:18:52.040 --> 01:18:55.040 bit 01:18:57.159 --> 01:18:59.376 basically part two is basically 01:18:59.400 --> 01:19:01.416 redundant well it will require note that 01:19:01.440 --> 01:19:02.816 it will also require the state 01:19:02.840 --> 01:19:04.856 government as part of the identified 01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:07.416 Precinct planning for Leppington to fund 01:19:07.440 --> 01:19:10.256 and complete the upgrade of Rickard road 01:19:10.280 --> 01:19:12.296 to Urban standards you can leave that in 01:19:12.320 --> 01:19:13.816 or take it out there're the urban 01:19:13.840 --> 01:19:16.256 standards that are required which also 01:19:16.280 --> 01:19:18.936 includes the schools but it needs to 01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:21.856 also say the street where people are 01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:24.296 going to access the primary school 01:19:24.320 --> 01:19:27.320 Public School hold on just slow down and 01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:30.496 word for word what you want added after 01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:32.695 standards well I don't care whether 01:19:32.719 --> 01:19:34.215 you leave the next they're they're the 01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:36.135 standards the road Carriage roadway 01:19:36.159 --> 01:19:39.159 needs to be widened they might have to 01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:42.520 access like rese property it has to be 01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:45.296 curbed it has to be drainage there has 01:19:45.320 --> 01:19:47.016 to be foot paaths there has to be Street 01:19:47.040 --> 01:19:49.976 lighting all of that is required before 01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:52.736 you can have a wombat Crossing so if you 01:19:52.760 --> 01:19:55.336 take it out that's fine so it would then 01:19:55.360 --> 01:19:58.360 go the urban standards Urban 01:19:58.719 --> 01:20:01.719 standards rard Road and the 01:20:02.800 --> 01:20:04.936 road I might ask the principal do you 01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:06.496 know the name of the 01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:09.520 road it's not constructed un named Road 01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:13.496 okay okay well no it will be a public 01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:16.520 road but the UN the unnamed public 01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:21.560 road which will give access to the 01:20:22.560 --> 01:20:24.736 Public School Leppington Public School 01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:26.376 and the high school is going to be 01:20:26.400 --> 01:20:29.175 bunged in there as well right so take 01:20:29.199 --> 01:20:30.896 out all the standards presably they 01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:32.336 know what the standards are even though 01:20:32.360 --> 01:20:35.360 they're not providing 01:20:36.679 --> 01:20:39.576 them okay NUMBER three is fine what we 01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:42.496 need to note here is that the 01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:44.655 responsibility for the design and 01:20:44.679 --> 01:20:46.336 construction of this vital 01:20:46.360 --> 01:20:48.695 infrastructure sits with the New South 01:20:48.719 --> 01:20:51.655 Wales government and is funded through 01:20:51.679 --> 01:20:53.736 State infrastructure contributions in 01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:56.215 other words this sitting on the money 01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:58.016 that they've collected they're 01:20:58.040 --> 01:20:59.856 responsible they should be putting this 01:20:59.880 --> 01:21:02.880 infrastructure in and the lesson here is 01:21:03.360 --> 01:21:06.336 don't go allowing an El area to whiz 01:21:06.360 --> 01:21:08.536 ahead and develop before you put the 01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:10.056 infrastructure in because you end up 01:21:10.080 --> 01:21:12.135 endangering people kids lives hold on 01:21:12.159 --> 01:21:13.336 councelor Campbell because we still need 01:21:13.360 --> 01:21:15.376 a second to hear and can I just make 01:21:15.400 --> 01:21:17.256 a quick clarification you may want to 01:21:17.280 --> 01:21:19.536 adjust our referring to the member for 01:21:19.560 --> 01:21:22.016 Camden it's the member for 01:21:22.040 --> 01:21:24.896 Leppington oh I apologize it is it's 01:21:24.920 --> 01:21:27.456 Nathan hey I do apologize but I'd like 01:21:27.480 --> 01:21:29.896 to add a four to it 01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:32.655 please which is that hold on hold on 01:21:32.679 --> 01:21:35.496 hold on the slow 01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:38.520 down yeah now the matter the the a 01:21:40.679 --> 01:21:42.896 matter be referred 01:21:42.920 --> 01:21:45.920 immediately to the Camden traffic 01:21:46.679 --> 01:21:49.679 committee right for them to investigate 01:21:50.320 --> 01:21:52.496 and make a decision 01:21:52.520 --> 01:21:55.520 about the traffic the commuter 01:21:56.920 --> 01:21:59.920 parking from the the railway station SL 01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.816 Down Slow Down slow down matter referred 01:22:02.840 --> 01:22:04.175 immediately to the traffic committee to 01:22:04.199 --> 01:22:06.776 make a decision on commuter 01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:09.800 parking from the Livington railway 01:22:13.080 --> 01:22:16.080 station which is seriously impacting the 01:22:16.199 --> 01:22:19.199 safety of the 01:22:19.800 --> 01:22:22.096 students that was I just wait just wait 01:22:22.120 --> 01:22:25.120 just wait 01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:29.135 it's currently that's the current one 01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:32.159 immediately wrong spelling I'm getting 01:22:33.560 --> 01:22:36.056 there so what's written is correct you 01:22:36.080 --> 01:22:37.936 right M be referred immediately to the 01:22:37.960 --> 01:22:40.336 traffic committee to make a a decision 01:22:40.360 --> 01:22:42.615 on computer parking from Leppington 01:22:42.639 --> 01:22:44.336 railway station which is seriously 01:22:44.360 --> 01:22:47.256 impacting the safety of students now as 01:22:47.280 --> 01:22:49.816 hold on before you go on any further we 01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:51.376 need a seconder 01:22:51.400 --> 01:22:53.936 please councelor Suri all right off you 01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:56.960 go okay so as I understand it Mr Nathan 01:22:58.159 --> 01:23:00.695 hegy has been involved in this and came 01:23:00.719 --> 01:23:03.376 up with this solution of actually 01:23:03.400 --> 01:23:06.400 putting no parking along the road where 01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:08.376 the commuters are parking and 01:23:08.400 --> 01:23:10.896 compromising safety and that was 01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:13.920 referred to Campbell toown Police not us 01:23:14.040 --> 01:23:16.336 not Camden not realin police referred to 01:23:16.360 --> 01:23:18.856 the Camden Campbell toown Police to come 01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:21.816 and book the poor unfortunate stressed 01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:24.615 parents the police at Campbell toown 01:23:24.639 --> 01:23:26.976 have indicated that that it isn't 01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:30.000 basically a parent problem it's actually 01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:33.520 a problem with not being able to find 01:23:34.040 --> 01:23:36.456 any way to access the school safely so 01:23:36.480 --> 01:23:39.456 that's an immediate action that can be 01:23:39.480 --> 01:23:42.480 taken to improve the safety like that 01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:46.000 now I'd also suggest having talked to my 01:23:46.679 --> 01:23:48.695 friend Robert who was relief teaching 01:23:48.719 --> 01:23:51.615 there that one of the issues too is and 01:23:51.639 --> 01:23:54.639 I acknowledge that the parents are time 01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:57.936 poor busy stressed often they are 01:23:57.960 --> 01:24:00.960 dropping kids on the side of the roadway 01:24:02.639 --> 01:24:04.776 expecting the kids to cross that 01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:07.536 increasingly busy roadway where the cars 01:24:07.560 --> 01:24:09.536 come up over a slight rise and are going 01:24:09.560 --> 01:24:12.135 above the speed limit they're actually 01:24:12.159 --> 01:24:14.056 requiring the kids to make their way 01:24:14.080 --> 01:24:16.016 across the road so if we put up a dirty 01:24:16.040 --> 01:24:17.695 big sign which wouldn't cost very much 01:24:17.719 --> 01:24:19.896 that said thank you for not dropping 01:24:19.920 --> 01:24:22.576 your child on the the wrong side of the 01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:24.976 street and and risking its life and Lim 01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:27.016 I think that would be that would be a 01:24:27.040 --> 01:24:29.536 good thing to be doing as well but what 01:24:29.560 --> 01:24:32.560 I'm saying here is given the amount of 01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:35.215 money that a wombat Crossing costs and 01:24:35.239 --> 01:24:37.536 given that there would need to be land 01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:40.175 Acquisitions there would need to and we 01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:42.135 know how long they take and what sort of 01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:43.776 a hassle there is in trying to get land 01:24:43.800 --> 01:24:45.736 off people that don't want to give it up 01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:47.496 given that the road would have to be 01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:50.016 widened given the drainage issues given 01:24:50.040 --> 01:24:51.896 the fact that you can't put in a wot 01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:53.695 Crossing unless you have the Curbing and 01:24:53.719 --> 01:24:55.736 Gathering the foot path and the lighting 01:24:55.760 --> 01:24:58.576 this is not going to happen we need to 01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:01.600 take the responsibility that we can to 01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:04.760 do the safety issues that we can now and 01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:08.056 get straight on to the state government 01:25:08.080 --> 01:25:11.080 to say don't do development don't allow 01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:14.215 it to happen if you haven't put in the 01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:16.496 infrastructure especially when that 01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:18.655 infrastructure applies to small han 01:25:18.679 --> 01:25:21.655 beings who don't need to be as I quite 01:25:21.679 --> 01:25:24.336 rudely said splattered into the ashfeld 01:25:24.360 --> 01:25:27.360 we need to to actually move on this now 01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:29.736 and fast and 01:25:29.760 --> 01:25:32.016 hard thank you Council it's run out of 01:25:32.040 --> 01:25:34.576 time I've spoken to it as well do we 01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:37.600 have any do we have any speakers for the 01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:41.600 amendment councilor 01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:44.456 Siri thank you Madame 01:25:44.480 --> 01:25:47.480 Mayor first of all I thank Miss Haley 01:25:49.119 --> 01:25:51.736 principal and also 01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:54.760 Mr Sai for they you know so equally 01:25:56.920 --> 01:25:59.920 concerned children's safety is of 01:26:00.719 --> 01:26:02.135 Paramount 01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:04.695 importance everyone will agree with that 01:26:04.719 --> 01:26:06.936 so we need to be really thoughtful and 01:26:06.960 --> 01:26:09.960 fully informed in such issues so as 01:26:11.400 --> 01:26:14.400 counselor Campbell just 01:26:14.600 --> 01:26:17.600 informed that the this Motion in regards 01:26:18.360 --> 01:26:21.296 to the safety Crossing for children was 01:26:21.320 --> 01:26:23.215 put in April 01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:26.215 2024 and as a result Council had 01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:29.016 undertaken some temporary and interim 01:26:29.040 --> 01:26:31.416 measures to try and address safety for 01:26:31.440 --> 01:26:34.440 children so I support that so that we 01:26:36.119 --> 01:26:38.175 write to the minister of education for 01:26:38.199 --> 01:26:40.936 newth South Wales honorable honorable 01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:43.896 Minister prar and Leppington MP 01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:46.056 honorable Nathan hagari calling on the 01:26:46.080 --> 01:26:47.816 state government to release funding 01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:50.576 immediately to allow the detailed design 01:26:50.600 --> 01:26:52.736 work and ultimate construction of indent 01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:55.376 base for buses and kiss and drop and the 01:26:55.400 --> 01:26:57.936 raised Crossing necessary for the safety 01:26:57.960 --> 01:27:00.056 of children attending Public School and 01:27:00.080 --> 01:27:02.936 all that planned expansion of the 01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:05.960 school a state government as part of 01:27:06.600 --> 01:27:09.016 the identified Precinct planning for 01:27:09.040 --> 01:27:10.736 lipington to complete the upgrade of 01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:13.536 Ricard road to Urban standards that is 01:27:13.560 --> 01:27:15.615 what road widening curb foot bath and 01:27:15.639 --> 01:27:16.936 Street lighting to cater for the 01:27:16.960 --> 01:27:19.095 development associated with Leppington 01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:22.119 which includes its schools and as Mr Sai 01:27:22.320 --> 01:27:25.320 had also shared that the at the 01:27:26.040 --> 01:27:27.576 moment they're saying June 01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:30.600 2026 that is too far time we need 01:27:31.679 --> 01:27:33.936 the safety of children to be attended as 01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:36.336 early as possible so I agree with the 01:27:36.360 --> 01:27:39.135 amendment that we should work on when it 01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:41.536 was first introduced to the council in 01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:44.456 April 24 and take it from there and 01:27:44.480 --> 01:27:46.215 write to the state government to release 01:27:46.239 --> 01:27:49.135 the funds as early as possible we need 01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:51.976 the children's safety Crossing earlier 01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:54.296 and so I support the amendment so so 01:27:54.320 --> 01:27:55.936 that we take on the work which was 01:27:55.960 --> 01:27:57.936 already started in 01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:00.856 2024 after that motion was put by 01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:03.880 councelor Campbell so the the temporary 01:28:04.320 --> 01:28:06.936 and interim measures which were started 01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:08.936 to address the safety for children 01:28:08.960 --> 01:28:11.655 whatever has been undertaken we should 01:28:11.679 --> 01:28:14.679 work from there and so reversing that 01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:16.456 would set us back in terms of child 01:28:16.480 --> 01:28:18.695 safety initiatives we cannot afford to 01:28:18.719 --> 01:28:21.175 waste the time resources and moment 01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:23.456 that have been invested already undoing 01:28:23.480 --> 01:28:25.615 that work would only create confusion 01:28:25.639 --> 01:28:27.776 and disruption impeding the progress 01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:29.976 that has already been achieved so for 01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:31.615 the sake of our children's safety we 01:28:31.639 --> 01:28:33.615 must ensure that efforts already 01:28:33.639 --> 01:28:35.536 undertaken are allowed to come to result 01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:37.536 as early as possible and we request the 01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:39.256 state government to release the funds 01:28:39.280 --> 01:28:42.016 immediately thank you are there any 01:28:42.040 --> 01:28:44.135 other speakers for the motion the 01:28:44.159 --> 01:28:46.655 amendment sorry councelor 01:28:46.679 --> 01:28:49.679 mlan thank you Madame Mayor and 01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:52.536 and firstly I want to thank Council 01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:55.215 Roman for her original motion cuz it 01:28:55.239 --> 01:28:57.416 is really really important as well as 01:28:57.440 --> 01:29:00.440 thanking Mrs ceni for speaking to 01:29:01.199 --> 01:29:02.896 that and 01:29:02.920 --> 01:29:05.016 representing the the wonderful School 01:29:05.040 --> 01:29:07.376 of Leppington public I know this has 01:29:07.400 --> 01:29:09.695 also ini issue other schools and it's 01:29:09.719 --> 01:29:12.296 a it's it's frustrating we're having 01:29:12.320 --> 01:29:13.856 this conversation because it's just a 01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:16.536 reoccurring issue in schools and it's 01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:18.256 not just a Camden LGA issue it's 01:29:18.280 --> 01:29:20.776 happening in plenty of places and 01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:23.800 it's a it's it's a dreadful shame 01:29:24.480 --> 01:29:27.480 I'm I'm pleased to support the the 01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:29.736 amended motion I'm never in favor of 01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:32.456 massive long motions but I think 01:29:32.480 --> 01:29:35.135 the the the detail and the the 01:29:35.159 --> 01:29:36.976 wholesomeness is is important to be 01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:40.000 captured in terms of including Parts 01:29:40.400 --> 01:29:43.016 like the railway station which is 01:29:43.040 --> 01:29:45.135 definitely a contributing factor as well 01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:46.776 as as as well as others I won't list 01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:49.800 them more I would also I think it 01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:54.880 it has to be stronger in terms of really 01:29:55.760 --> 01:29:58.615 focusing that that is undoubtedly a 01:29:58.639 --> 01:30:01.639 state government issue which which is 01:30:02.440 --> 01:30:05.440 mentioned somewhat in the first 01:30:05.480 --> 01:30:07.256 original motion but a little bit 01:30:07.280 --> 01:30:09.816 stronger in the in the amended which 01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:12.840 I like I I would also note to schools 01:30:13.440 --> 01:30:16.376 infrastructure New South Wales of the 01:30:16.400 --> 01:30:18.135 very Road policy that transport for New 01:30:18.159 --> 01:30:21.159 South Wales is now more actively 01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:22.776 pursuing which is the road user space 01:30:22.800 --> 01:30:24.536 allocation policy 01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:27.560 it is redrawing the Paradigm 01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:32.920 between cars being the sole users of our 01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:36.119 roads and this is directly relevant 01:30:36.320 --> 01:30:39.320 to school and high pedestrian zones 01:30:40.280 --> 01:30:43.280 and we we know that they've got this 01:30:43.639 --> 01:30:46.416 policy it's been around forz 5 years 01:30:46.440 --> 01:30:49.135 maybe now wasn't used initially but 01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:52.159 it is now becoming Common Place so I 01:30:52.480 --> 01:30:54.496 would I would certainly it doesn't 01:30:54.520 --> 01:30:56.215 need to be in the motion but I I want to 01:30:56.239 --> 01:30:57.936 raise awareness of that because it is 01:30:57.960 --> 01:31:00.336 critically important that these sorts of 01:31:00.360 --> 01:31:02.256 state government policy platforms are 01:31:02.280 --> 01:31:05.280 actually adhered to at a local level 01:31:05.360 --> 01:31:08.360 and that Young mobile students who 01:31:10.400 --> 01:31:13.400 are Road users as well need to be 01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:15.856 given fair and Equitable access and 01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:18.880 safe access to our roads thank you thank 01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:21.816 you council mlan do we have any speakers 01:31:21.840 --> 01:31:24.840 against the amendment 01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:26.376 councelor 01:31:26.400 --> 01:31:29.400 quell thank you madam Mayor look I 01:31:29.600 --> 01:31:31.376 just like to note 01:31:31.400 --> 01:31:33.655 that what's listed in the amendment is 01:31:33.679 --> 01:31:35.896 already covered under the recommendation 01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:37.576 that listed listed in the business 01:31:37.600 --> 01:31:40.600 papers so I just to just to pass the 01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:44.695 motion as already outlined in the 01:31:44.719 --> 01:31:47.175 business papers it's well well 01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:50.199 articulated and gives the ability for 01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:53.880 our staff who are experts in this 01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:56.536 area of of advocacy and how the right to 01:31:56.560 --> 01:31:57.576 state governments to do their job 01:31:57.600 --> 01:31:59.655 properly thank you thank you councelor 01:31:59.679 --> 01:32:02.615 quel are there any other speakers for 01:32:02.639 --> 01:32:05.336 the amendment against the 01:32:05.360 --> 01:32:08.095 amendment do we have any 01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:11.119 questions councelor 01:32:11.440 --> 01:32:14.440 Sicari in this motion that 01:32:15.440 --> 01:32:18.440 councelor rayan has put forward I 01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:21.215 understand that the Motions that 01:32:21.239 --> 01:32:24.239 everyone the amendment what everyone 01:32:24.920 --> 01:32:27.776 is talking about and as 01:32:27.800 --> 01:32:30.576 counselor Cornell has already mentioned 01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:32.816 these things have been things that have 01:32:32.840 --> 01:32:35.840 been brought up multiple time over the 01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:39.560 years but the what I want to express my 01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:44.600 question is this this motion that 01:32:45.440 --> 01:32:47.416 councilor Raymond is 01:32:47.440 --> 01:32:50.440 putting it is UN it is already 01:32:50.520 --> 01:32:53.520 understood that to put a Womack Crossing 01:32:53.639 --> 01:32:56.639 and and putting in Guta it is it is 01:32:57.800 --> 01:33:00.800 important that is very well understood 01:33:01.360 --> 01:33:04.360 but in the what Eliza Council Raymond is 01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:08.000 putting is a temporary safety measure 01:33:09.400 --> 01:33:11.816 it's a temporary safety measure 01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:14.840 until these things get put in order of 01:33:15.440 --> 01:33:17.095 course all the things that everyone said 01:33:17.119 --> 01:33:19.336 here today is vital and is 01:33:19.360 --> 01:33:22.360 important but what is my question is is 01:33:23.920 --> 01:33:26.920 this is a temporary safety measure 01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:30.520 so can we look at the fact that to 01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:35.576 put this motion I understand everything 01:33:35.600 --> 01:33:36.896 is vital I 01:33:36.920 --> 01:33:39.920 agree but it it will take time can we 01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:43.760 look leave it as as it is 01:33:44.239 --> 01:33:47.239 for or at least put in that it's we need 01:33:48.719 --> 01:33:50.976 a temporary safety 01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:54.000 measure we need something temporary 01:33:54.360 --> 01:33:55.736 that's all I'm asking can we have 01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:58.296 something temporary please councelor 01:33:58.320 --> 01:34:00.776 Campbell would you like to add somewhere 01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:03.800 within your Amendment temporary measures 01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:06.816 to be investigated and or imp I would 01:34:06.840 --> 01:34:08.175 have thought there were temporary 01:34:08.199 --> 01:34:10.736 measures there in the immediate referral 01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:12.816 to the traffic committee because they're 01:34:12.840 --> 01:34:14.896 the statutory Authority that has the 01:34:14.920 --> 01:34:17.920 right to make recommendations on public 01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:21.000 roads and what's done that that will 01:34:22.639 --> 01:34:24.976 be there recommendations will be a 01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:28.000 temporary measure but I I have to 01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:32.000 disagree 01:34:32.280 --> 01:34:34.776 that I have to disagree that we're 01:34:34.800 --> 01:34:36.576 pushing this hard enough to the 01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:39.095 authority that really has control over 01:34:39.119 --> 01:34:42.016 it we can do the temporary stuff one of 01:34:42.040 --> 01:34:45.040 which would be putting no parking along 01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:48.560 the road between the the station and the 01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:50.296 C and let's give credit to where 01:34:50.320 --> 01:34:52.376 credit's due the council officers have 01:34:52.400 --> 01:34:55.400 already done several things that are 01:34:55.520 --> 01:34:57.416 temporary measures to try and increase 01:34:57.440 --> 01:35:00.016 safety they've already been done in the 01:35:00.040 --> 01:35:03.040 last 12 months so we're up to a stage 01:35:03.639 --> 01:35:05.976 now where I think we need to give it a 01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:07.296 really big 01:35:07.320 --> 01:35:10.320 shove and and lay it on the doormat of 01:35:10.600 --> 01:35:13.600 the people whose responsibility is to 01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:16.856 actually fix the damn thing fix the 01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:19.880 situation and fix it properly and do it 01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:23.600 now not in 3 or 4 years time 01:35:24.400 --> 01:35:27.056 basically that's what I'm saying we move 01:35:27.080 --> 01:35:29.936 now to say what we want and if this 01:35:29.960 --> 01:35:32.655 Council were to vote to send it to the 01:35:32.679 --> 01:35:34.695 state government then it 01:35:34.719 --> 01:35:37.719 becomes a much weightier and instant 01:35:38.600 --> 01:35:40.456 issue to be dealt with and by the sounds 01:35:40.480 --> 01:35:43.480 of it we would have the member F 01:35:43.719 --> 01:35:45.776 Leppington on side because he's already 01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:48.800 been trying to to get some temporary 01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:51.416 measures in place okay counselor thank 01:35:51.440 --> 01:35:53.256 you for answering councelor sari's 01:35:53.280 --> 01:35:54.135 question 01:35:54.159 --> 01:35:56.296 councelor we've got another question 01:35:56.320 --> 01:35:59.016 councelor fer yeah thank you Madame may 01:35:59.040 --> 01:36:01.296 I think we're all on the same page child 01:36:01.320 --> 01:36:04.320 safties Paramount my question would be 01:36:04.360 --> 01:36:06.016 with the original motion or the 01:36:06.040 --> 01:36:07.376 amendment which one's going to get the 01:36:07.400 --> 01:36:09.376 crossing done first I wouldn't want to 01:36:09.400 --> 01:36:12.175 you know God forbid do something too 01:36:12.199 --> 01:36:13.215 late so what's going to what's going to 01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:15.496 have immediate impact and for me that'd 01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:18.135 be my question 01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:20.736 and I I'd say the original 01:36:20.760 --> 01:36:23.760 motion would give that immediate impact 01:36:24.080 --> 01:36:25.615 yeah honestly I don't even know who 01:36:25.639 --> 01:36:27.336 could answer that one for you sorry 01:36:27.360 --> 01:36:28.936 counselor but 01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:31.960 I counselor sorry Mr general manager 01:36:32.159 --> 01:36:33.376 would you like to give it a crack I 01:36:33.400 --> 01:36:34.655 think that may be a question that 01:36:34.679 --> 01:36:36.615 councilors need to ask themselves I 01:36:36.639 --> 01:36:39.336 think that was the intent 01:36:39.360 --> 01:36:42.360 clearly there's a range of safety 01:36:42.480 --> 01:36:44.736 measures that Council has been 01:36:44.760 --> 01:36:45.816 actively 01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:48.615 investigating and our officers are 01:36:48.639 --> 01:36:50.456 still currently investigating other 01:36:50.480 --> 01:36:53.056 temporary safe safety improvements in 01:36:53.080 --> 01:36:55.816 and around the school there are 01:36:55.840 --> 01:36:58.215 proposals that are out for Community 01:36:58.239 --> 01:37:01.239 consultation for the new high school and 01:37:01.320 --> 01:37:03.496 I'm advise it very shortly in the coming 01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:06.520 weeks proposals for significant 01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:10.000 changes to the primary school this 01:37:10.119 --> 01:37:11.776 would provide opportunities for 01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:13.896 community members to have their input on 01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:15.976 things that are important in those new 01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:19.000 school projects including access 01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:21.016 to and from the 01:37:21.040 --> 01:37:23.896 schools but it's up to counil to 01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:26.095 deliberate on on which is the most 01:37:26.119 --> 01:37:28.615 appropriate method in terms of the 01:37:28.639 --> 01:37:30.056 the amendment and the 01:37:30.080 --> 01:37:32.816 motion thank you Mr general manager 01:37:32.840 --> 01:37:35.175 if there are no further questions 01:37:35.199 --> 01:37:37.456 question councelor I just want to add 01:37:37.480 --> 01:37:39.175 that the question only we're up to 01:37:39.199 --> 01:37:41.496 questions yeah no questions please okay 01:37:41.520 --> 01:37:43.215 thank you councelor Ramen I'll give 01:37:43.239 --> 01:37:44.416 you your right of 01:37:44.440 --> 01:37:47.440 reply thank you Madame may as for my 01:37:47.880 --> 01:37:49.776 recommendation I can actually 01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:52.800 highlight the NUMBER one is a 01:37:52.960 --> 01:37:54.135 covering 01:37:54.159 --> 01:37:56.736 amended Amendment motions for NUMBER 01:37:56.760 --> 01:37:59.760 one as well because it is the for 01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:04.760 part of that process at the same time if 01:38:06.360 --> 01:38:09.360 we are keep referring to multiple 01:38:10.440 --> 01:38:13.440 departments to negotiate the fund that 01:38:14.560 --> 01:38:17.095 is the point it will slow down the 01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:20.119 process state is already working on it 01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:22.695 as well as Council staffs are doing 01:38:22.719 --> 01:38:25.719 great job we need just at this point the 01:38:26.440 --> 01:38:29.440 solution for recard road that is due to 01:38:29.760 --> 01:38:32.760 be upgraded in two years time we cannot 01:38:32.840 --> 01:38:35.840 go for the unnamed road to be upgraded 01:38:36.280 --> 01:38:38.536 and then wait for that children safe 01:38:38.560 --> 01:38:41.560 Crossing if I consider the NUMBER two 01:38:42.840 --> 01:38:44.336 original motion NUMBER two 01:38:44.360 --> 01:38:47.095 recommendation it clearly says that we 01:38:47.119 --> 01:38:49.336 need to investigate the implementation 01:38:49.360 --> 01:38:52.360 of the temporary solution we need that 01:38:52.440 --> 01:38:54.536 temporary safety 01:38:54.560 --> 01:38:57.560 measures and also that temporary safety 01:38:57.719 --> 01:39:00.719 measures Council staff needs to actually 01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:03.016 investigate and refer to the state 01:39:03.040 --> 01:39:06.040 department as part that 01:39:06.080 --> 01:39:09.080 process we can apply for the grants and 01:39:09.400 --> 01:39:12.016 that fund can be that is the process we 01:39:12.040 --> 01:39:15.040 can get the fund for particular 01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:19.000 demanding requirements at this point the 01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:22.976 fund location we if we follow the 01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:25.175 process is applying for it it's going to 01:39:25.199 --> 01:39:27.016 slow down the whole process that's how I 01:39:27.040 --> 01:39:30.040 think and also the community in past 01:39:30.480 --> 01:39:33.480 multiple years was not aware of it that 01:39:34.360 --> 01:39:37.360 what we are doing for it what advocacy 01:39:37.560 --> 01:39:40.560 was done behind this whole process so we 01:39:41.440 --> 01:39:44.440 don't have that sort of a Connections in 01:39:44.880 --> 01:39:47.880 that way that yes state is doing or 01:39:48.440 --> 01:39:51.440 taking that sort of a steps and also 01:39:51.880 --> 01:39:54.880 Council staff is working genuinely 01:39:55.360 --> 01:39:58.175 towards the safety program yes we know 01:39:58.199 --> 01:40:01.199 there is multiple parking and also 01:40:02.480 --> 01:40:05.480 the no parking area safety measurement 01:40:05.520 --> 01:40:08.520 initiative taken but it is was just 01:40:09.199 --> 01:40:12.199 up to that point is for whole school 01:40:13.840 --> 01:40:16.840 safe Crossing around it but not having a 01:40:17.679 --> 01:40:19.655 safety Crossing for the children to get 01:40:19.679 --> 01:40:22.135 dropped off pick up so we need to get a 01:40:22.159 --> 01:40:24.776 solution for particular drop off and 01:40:24.800 --> 01:40:27.416 pickup area and if we are considering it 01:40:27.440 --> 01:40:30.135 we need to get their temporary solution 01:40:30.159 --> 01:40:32.336 not for waiting for the recard road 01:40:32.360 --> 01:40:35.256 upgrades or waiting for that unnamed 01:40:35.280 --> 01:40:38.280 roads to be introduced that's how I look 01:40:38.400 --> 01:40:41.400 at thank you councelor Ramen so to be 01:40:41.480 --> 01:40:44.215 clear councilors we're now voting on 01:40:44.239 --> 01:40:47.239 this amendment as brought To Us by 01:40:47.400 --> 01:40:50.400 councelor Campbell so with that I P I'll 01:40:50.520 --> 01:40:53.520 put the amendment to council all those 01:40:53.719 --> 01:40:56.719 in favor councelor Campbell councelor 01:40:56.960 --> 01:40:59.960 mlan councelor Siri all those against 01:41:00.119 --> 01:41:02.695 councelor Ramen councelor quel councelor 01:41:02.719 --> 01:41:04.416 Ferreri councelor Sicari councelor 01:41:04.440 --> 01:41:06.976 Fedeli councelor Kagney the amendment 01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:09.575 is lost councelor Raman would you 01:41:09.599 --> 01:41:12.599 like to move your original 01:41:13.320 --> 01:41:15.456 recommendation yes madame Mayor thank 01:41:15.480 --> 01:41:17.056 you and I'll ask for a 01:41:17.080 --> 01:41:20.080 second councelor Ferreri councelor 01:41:20.520 --> 01:41:21.776 Ryman would you like to speak to your 01:41:21.800 --> 01:41:24.496 motion 01:41:24.520 --> 01:41:27.520 again thank you Madame Mayor yes we 01:41:27.960 --> 01:41:30.960 need to focus on only two important 01:41:31.840 --> 01:41:34.536 issues here is finding the 01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:36.976 implementation of temporary safety 01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:40.000 measures and then also Advocate to get 01:41:41.239 --> 01:41:44.239 that fund from the state so this is the 01:41:45.119 --> 01:41:47.016 most important two sections that we are 01:41:47.040 --> 01:41:49.896 actually looking into that and I would 01:41:49.920 --> 01:41:52.920 ask Mr general manager if you can 01:41:54.719 --> 01:41:57.135 give any answer that how we can look 01:41:57.159 --> 01:42:00.159 into it so the community can actually 01:42:00.639 --> 01:42:03.416 see that what we are expecting out of 01:42:03.440 --> 01:42:06.336 that Mr general 01:42:06.360 --> 01:42:09.016 manager could I ask the councilor to 01:42:09.040 --> 01:42:12.040 just rephrase that question again so 01:42:12.239 --> 01:42:14.695 I've got it yes about the advocacy 01:42:14.719 --> 01:42:17.719 States has like do we have a stape in 01:42:18.639 --> 01:42:21.639 mind that how we can do it or and also 01:42:22.159 --> 01:42:24.496 how we can request the fund from the 01:42:24.520 --> 01:42:27.175 state and also if we can get the 01:42:27.199 --> 01:42:30.199 temporary solution it is our 01:42:31.480 --> 01:42:34.135 basically the directors that they can 01:42:34.159 --> 01:42:37.159 find out or investigate it properly 01:42:37.360 --> 01:42:38.976 councelor Ryman I might jp in there 01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:41.215 just briefly and speak to the advocacy 01:42:41.239 --> 01:42:43.376 work that I've been doing on behalf 01:42:43.400 --> 01:42:45.856 of council for quite a while now on this 01:42:45.880 --> 01:42:48.016 particular issue 01:42:48.040 --> 01:42:50.575 we don't usually do this but 01:42:50.599 --> 01:42:53.336 principal cini we are absolutely on 01:42:53.360 --> 01:42:54.936 board with the issues that you've got 01:42:54.960 --> 01:42:56.416 there and we are doing all that we can 01:42:56.440 --> 01:42:58.856 at a council level to Advocate on behalf 01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:01.776 of your school community and your staff 01:43:01.800 --> 01:43:03.615 and everyone in the surrounding area 01:43:03.639 --> 01:43:05.695 because we have had nothing but grief 01:43:05.719 --> 01:43:08.719 and issues with not only primary schools 01:43:08.960 --> 01:43:11.615 but preschools and high schools alike 01:43:11.639 --> 01:43:13.416 and we have been doing everything that 01:43:13.440 --> 01:43:15.615 we that we can behind the scenes to 01:43:15.639 --> 01:43:18.639 Advocate on your behalf as well as the 01:43:18.960 --> 01:43:20.936 the residents of our whole LGA 01:43:20.960 --> 01:43:22.456 because this isn't just a Leppington 01:43:22.480 --> 01:43:25.256 issue this is an across the board issue 01:43:25.280 --> 01:43:27.695 unfortunately in terms of advocacy 01:43:27.719 --> 01:43:29.816 work I have met myself with you 01:43:29.840 --> 01:43:31.896 councelor Ramen with the state member 01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:34.920 of Leppington to really press this issue 01:43:35.320 --> 01:43:38.135 and again he's on board whatever 01:43:38.159 --> 01:43:40.095 he can do and I know you know that 01:43:40.119 --> 01:43:43.119 but whatever he can do he's doing behind 01:43:43.760 --> 01:43:46.256 the scenes as well and in terms of 01:43:46.280 --> 01:43:49.280 representations made to the deputy 01:43:49.639 --> 01:43:52.639 Premier and Minister for education 01:43:53.159 --> 01:43:55.456 and whatever else is in her title we've 01:43:55.480 --> 01:43:57.655 been doing that as well we have we have 01:43:57.679 --> 01:43:59.215 been sending letters left right and 01:43:59.239 --> 01:44:02.239 Center to the minister about a range 01:44:03.639 --> 01:44:05.536 of Primary School issues that we're 01:44:05.560 --> 01:44:07.816 facing in the Camden LGA I don't think 01:44:07.840 --> 01:44:10.496 there is a counselor Among Us that isn't 01:44:10.520 --> 01:44:12.456 on the same page when it comes to this 01:44:12.480 --> 01:44:14.536 not only is it frustrating but it's 01:44:14.560 --> 01:44:16.736 absolutely outrageous that here we are 01:44:16.760 --> 01:44:19.175 supporting the growth of our state and 01:44:19.199 --> 01:44:21.496 we are not seeing basic levels of 01:44:21.520 --> 01:44:23.456 infrastructure to meet our community 01:44:23.480 --> 01:44:26.480 needs these are our children we all know 01:44:26.760 --> 01:44:28.936 that we have like the largest growing 01:44:28.960 --> 01:44:31.256 age group within our LGA and not to four 01:44:31.280 --> 01:44:33.655 year olds we all know that all those not 01:44:33.679 --> 01:44:35.336 to four year olds need 01:44:35.360 --> 01:44:37.615 preschools out of the roll out that we 01:44:37.639 --> 01:44:40.639 saw of the 100 preschools we saw one in 01:44:41.040 --> 01:44:44.040 our entire LGA at Leppington and 01:44:44.239 --> 01:44:45.896 congratulations but we would have loved 01:44:45.920 --> 01:44:48.920 to have seen at least five we have 01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:52.695 you know we have schools bursting at the 01:44:52.719 --> 01:44:55.719 scene tees that are brand new to our LGA 01:44:56.119 --> 01:44:58.655 we are seeing schools with 22 01:44:58.679 --> 01:45:01.679 kindergarten classes I mean when we 01:45:01.760 --> 01:45:04.416 speak about the issues that we're facing 01:45:04.440 --> 01:45:07.215 within our LGA we are blowing people's 01:45:07.239 --> 01:45:08.976 minds with our statistics and our 01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:12.000 figures we are seeing older established 01:45:12.360 --> 01:45:15.360 schools within our LGA you know with 01:45:16.719 --> 01:45:18.896 communities that have been around for 01:45:18.920 --> 01:45:20.575 I can't tell you how long that are 01:45:20.599 --> 01:45:22.296 bursting at the seams because they're 01:45:22.320 --> 01:45:23.896 having to 01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:26.920 accommodate students from outside of 01:45:27.400 --> 01:45:29.736 that particular suburb what we are 01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:32.536 witnessing here in Camen because of our 01:45:32.560 --> 01:45:35.560 growth is unprecedented and we know that 01:45:36.159 --> 01:45:39.159 and we're trying so desperately from our 01:45:39.440 --> 01:45:42.135 council's perspective on behalf of our 01:45:42.159 --> 01:45:44.655 residents when we speak about school's 01:45:44.679 --> 01:45:47.256 infrastructure issues that whatever 01:45:47.280 --> 01:45:50.135 model whatever standard whatever default 01:45:50.159 --> 01:45:52.536 position they have it does not work in 01:45:52.560 --> 01:45:55.560 Cada full stop it doesn't work so on 01:45:56.080 --> 01:45:59.080 behalf of our community we are all here 01:46:00.239 --> 01:46:02.655 for you to support you and your school 01:46:02.679 --> 01:46:04.575 your school community and your staff as 01:46:04.599 --> 01:46:06.615 well because it is I know that you know 01:46:06.639 --> 01:46:08.856 the stress of the morning flow flows on 01:46:08.880 --> 01:46:11.880 into the classroom mother of four is 01:46:12.280 --> 01:46:14.296 sitting one next to one of my children 01:46:14.320 --> 01:46:17.320 right there and we get it we get it 01:46:17.960 --> 01:46:20.496 and so hats off to you and your staff 01:46:20.520 --> 01:46:21.816 for having to deal with this but in 01:46:21.840 --> 01:46:24.840 terms of advocacy work we are doing all 01:46:25.040 --> 01:46:27.175 that we 01:46:27.199 --> 01:46:30.199 can Council thank you Madame this is the 01:46:30.520 --> 01:46:33.175 answer I was looking for that how hard 01:46:33.199 --> 01:46:36.016 work was done by the council team and 01:46:36.040 --> 01:46:37.575 you have explained it well thank you 01:46:37.599 --> 01:46:38.896 Madame 01:46:38.920 --> 01:46:41.920 may do we have any speakers for the 01:46:43.679 --> 01:46:46.679 motion against do we have any 01:46:47.599 --> 01:46:49.736 questions with that I put the motion 01:46:49.760 --> 01:46:51.816 forward all those in 01:46:51.840 --> 01:46:54.840 favor councelor mlan councelor Ramen 01:46:55.239 --> 01:46:57.016 councelor quel councelor Ferreri 01:46:57.040 --> 01:46:59.215 councelor Sicari councelor Suri 01:46:59.239 --> 01:47:02.239 councelor Fedeli councelor Kagney those 01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:05.615 against the motion is 01:47:05.639 --> 01:47:08.639 carried on to item 15 notice of motion 01:47:10.159 --> 01:47:11.976 recognize and observe International 01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:13.736 mother language day 01:47:13.760 --> 01:47:16.336 annually we have a recommendation on 01:47:16.360 --> 01:47:17.816 page 01:47:17.840 --> 01:47:20.840 76 councelor Ramen you are the Mover 01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:23.256 of this motion you're happy to proceed 01:47:23.280 --> 01:47:26.280 with that do we have a secondar 01:47:27.080 --> 01:47:29.615 councelor Sicari thank you councelor 01:47:29.639 --> 01:47:32.215 Ramen thank you Madame 01:47:32.239 --> 01:47:34.736 May celebrating International mother 01:47:34.760 --> 01:47:37.760 language day each year serves as a as a 01:47:38.639 --> 01:47:40.736 testiment of inclusivity and the 01:47:40.760 --> 01:47:43.376 richness of linguistic diversity I pay 01:47:43.400 --> 01:47:45.456 tribute to the historical sacrifices 01:47:45.480 --> 01:47:47.816 made by the people of Bangladesh who 01:47:47.840 --> 01:47:50.376 fought for the recognition of their 01:47:50.400 --> 01:47:52.496 mother tongue banga especially honoring 01:47:52.520 --> 01:47:54.615 those who lost their lives on February 01:47:54.639 --> 01:47:57.639 21st 1952 their courage and dedication 01:47:58.760 --> 01:48:01.760 to safeguarding their language have 01:48:02.159 --> 01:48:04.936 inspired countless individuals worldwide 01:48:04.960 --> 01:48:07.776 to value and protect linguistic 01:48:07.800 --> 01:48:10.095 diversity International mother language 01:48:10.119 --> 01:48:12.256 day is observed globally on February 01:48:12.280 --> 01:48:15.280 21st to raise awareness of linguistic 01:48:15.320 --> 01:48:17.776 and cultural diversity and to 01:48:17.800 --> 01:48:20.776 encourage MultiLing lingualism initially 01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:23.800 announced by UNESCO on November 17 1999 01:48:24.760 --> 01:48:27.175 it was formally recognized by the United 01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:28.856 Nations General Assembly with the 01:48:28.880 --> 01:48:31.880 adoption of resolution 56 sl262 in 01:48:32.800 --> 01:48:35.416 2022 it is vital to raise awareness 01:48:35.440 --> 01:48:37.376 about the importance of preserving all 01:48:37.400 --> 01:48:40.215 languages and dialects emphasizing their 01:48:40.239 --> 01:48:42.416 significance in culture identity and 01:48:42.440 --> 01:48:44.816 Community therefore I recommend that 01:48:44.840 --> 01:48:47.016 Council recognize the significance of 01:48:47.040 --> 01:48:48.856 international mother language day and 01:48:48.880 --> 01:48:51.880 observe it annually on 21st February to 01:48:52.239 --> 01:48:54.215 promote linguistic and cultural 01:48:54.239 --> 01:48:56.736 diversity and multilingual 01:48:56.760 --> 01:48:59.376 multilingualism let us unite in 01:48:59.400 --> 01:49:01.976 celebrating our reach linguistic 01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:05.000 Heritage and ensuring that future 01:49:05.440 --> 01:49:07.256 Generations can enjoy the beauty of 01:49:07.280 --> 01:49:10.056 their mother languages thank you thank 01:49:10.080 --> 01:49:11.655 you councelor Ramen are there any 01:49:11.679 --> 01:49:13.056 speakers for the 01:49:13.080 --> 01:49:16.080 motion councelor 01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:19.159 Sicari thank you Madame May 01:49:19.480 --> 01:49:22.480 I want to thank U councelor rhan 01:49:22.760 --> 01:49:25.760 for this motion I just wanted to 01:49:26.080 --> 01:49:29.080 share that I'm I'm a daughter of a a 01:49:29.679 --> 01:49:32.679 migrant grandparents that came to 01:49:32.719 --> 01:49:34.575 Australia in the early 01:49:34.599 --> 01:49:37.536 1950s and my grandmother was 35 years of 01:49:37.560 --> 01:49:40.175 age when she came here and she died at 01:49:40.199 --> 01:49:42.456 96 and in the 60 years of her life that 01:49:42.480 --> 01:49:43.896 she lived in Australia she was never 01:49:43.920 --> 01:49:45.175 able to speak 01:49:45.199 --> 01:49:48.199 English and so for my grand for her 01:49:49.520 --> 01:49:51.056 great-grandchildren to be able to 01:49:51.080 --> 01:49:53.135 communicate with her 01:49:53.159 --> 01:49:56.159 I had to take my children to a an 01:49:57.520 --> 01:50:00.296 Italian school class lessons so that 01:50:00.320 --> 01:50:02.056 they would be able to communicate with 01:50:02.080 --> 01:50:03.976 their grand her their great 01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:07.000 grandmother I only found out about it 01:50:07.480 --> 01:50:10.095 because through a friend who told me 01:50:10.119 --> 01:50:13.119 about this school and so it only was by 01:50:13.199 --> 01:50:16.199 Word of Mouth the reason why I'm 01:50:17.080 --> 01:50:20.080 in agreement with this motion is that 01:50:20.119 --> 01:50:22.376 people need to be a people do not know 01:50:22.400 --> 01:50:25.400 where to get access to help to be able 01:50:25.800 --> 01:50:27.776 to communicate with loved ones families 01:50:27.800 --> 01:50:30.135 and friends who struggle who are 01:50:30.159 --> 01:50:31.776 migrants who struggle to be able to 01:50:31.800 --> 01:50:34.296 speak the natural language here in 01:50:34.320 --> 01:50:37.095 Australia and so been able to have a day 01:50:37.119 --> 01:50:39.016 where people can come together and 01:50:39.040 --> 01:50:41.456 support each other so that they can find 01:50:41.480 --> 01:50:44.456 the things that they need in this new 01:50:44.480 --> 01:50:47.456 country I think that that would be a 01:50:47.480 --> 01:50:50.480 great thing to happen thank you thank 01:50:50.520 --> 01:50:52.095 you councelor Sicari and thank you for 01:50:52.119 --> 01:50:54.496 sharing your story do we have any 01:50:54.520 --> 01:50:56.776 other speakers for the 01:50:56.800 --> 01:50:58.936 motion 01:50:58.960 --> 01:51:01.695 against an amendment Council 01:51:01.719 --> 01:51:04.536 Campbell I'd like to propose that a 01:51:04.560 --> 01:51:07.560 briefing be held on the options Council 01:51:08.199 --> 01:51:11.199 has to support International days to 01:51:11.599 --> 01:51:14.599 decide what we want to support and at 01:51:14.760 --> 01:51:17.760 what cost to rate payers 01:51:23.599 --> 01:51:25.736 if you do you need us to repeat can you 01:51:25.760 --> 01:51:28.760 repeat that please that a briefing be 01:51:29.000 --> 01:51:32.000 held on the options that Council has to 01:51:33.520 --> 01:51:36.135 support International 01:51:36.159 --> 01:51:39.159 days to decide what we want to support 01:51:40.400 --> 01:51:43.400 and at what cost to rate payers 01:51:54.599 --> 01:51:56.256 okay counselor Campbell I'll just get 01:51:56.280 --> 01:51:59.280 you to check the screen and make sure 01:52:02.440 --> 01:52:05.440 that in a 01:52:07.880 --> 01:52:10.816 moment 01:52:10.840 --> 01:52:13.840 options support inter International with 01:52:14.119 --> 01:52:17.119 a capital I probably and no 01:52:18.599 --> 01:52:21.599 s aside from the minor typos of capital 01:52:22.159 --> 01:52:25.159 for International and minor CS that's Co 01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:28.920 that's 01:52:31.960 --> 01:52:34.960 it okay I'll ask for a second of 01:52:35.400 --> 01:52:38.400 please Council Siri councel Campell 01:52:39.040 --> 01:52:40.776 speak you to 01:52:40.800 --> 01:52:43.496 okay I understand the passion that I've 01:52:43.520 --> 01:52:45.456 heard from two of my counselor 01:52:45.480 --> 01:52:48.215 colleagues on this but the international 01:52:48.239 --> 01:52:51.095 day that's being referred to on the 21st 01:52:51.119 --> 01:52:54.119 of February is mere 7even days before 01:52:54.199 --> 01:52:57.199 our highly successful organized 01:52:58.079 --> 01:53:00.976 focused recognition and observance of 01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:04.000 Multicultural March now I know the UN 01:53:04.159 --> 01:53:07.135 likes to to favor the 21st day of the 01:53:07.159 --> 01:53:10.159 month indeed the 21st of March is the 01:53:11.599 --> 01:53:14.599 start of a week of solidarity against 01:53:14.840 --> 01:53:17.695 racial discrimination as well as being 01:53:17.719 --> 01:53:20.719 World poetry day and it's also Harmony 01:53:21.920 --> 01:53:23.456 day 01:53:23.480 --> 01:53:26.480 now if we go to the 21st of the 4th 01:53:26.880 --> 01:53:29.776 that's International creativity day the 01:53:29.800 --> 01:53:32.800 21st of the 5th that's World tea day and 01:53:33.880 --> 01:53:36.695 also cultural diversity dialogue and 01:53:36.719 --> 01:53:39.719 development day so basically there are 01:53:39.800 --> 01:53:41.896 so many days to celebrate it seems 01:53:41.920 --> 01:53:43.695 internationally that we're having to 01:53:43.719 --> 01:53:46.719 double and triple up on some of the days 01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:50.000 and I I mention all these days 01:53:50.840 --> 01:53:53.416 because rather than cherry pick one that 01:53:53.440 --> 01:53:55.496 means something to one person another 01:53:55.520 --> 01:53:57.615 one that may not mean anything to them I 01:53:57.639 --> 01:54:00.055 think we deserve to go back and have a 01:54:00.079 --> 01:54:02.976 look at the whole picture and decide 01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:04.575 what would be appropriate for this 01:54:04.599 --> 01:54:06.496 community how many celebrations we would 01:54:06.520 --> 01:54:08.055 want to have when we would want to have 01:54:08.079 --> 01:54:10.055 them whether one is contradicting 01:54:10.079 --> 01:54:12.856 another one as in this instance 7 days 01:54:12.880 --> 01:54:15.336 before Multicultural March which is a 01:54:15.360 --> 01:54:18.360 real winner in my opinion is 01:54:18.520 --> 01:54:20.496 something that you you possibly may not 01:54:20.520 --> 01:54:21.856 want to do I think you need to be a bit 01:54:21.880 --> 01:54:23.376 more thoughtful and organized and 01:54:23.400 --> 01:54:26.400 rational than that and in relation to 01:54:27.119 --> 01:54:30.119 languages International ones on the 10th 01:54:30.679 --> 01:54:33.679 of March and again on March the 17th we 01:54:34.440 --> 01:54:37.055 already support mother language 01:54:37.079 --> 01:54:39.416 storytelling at the library we already 01:54:39.440 --> 01:54:42.440 do that and it's really successful and 01:54:43.079 --> 01:54:46.079 perhaps if I kindly refer to councelor 01:54:48.159 --> 01:54:50.776 sikari's story about her her 01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:52.776 grandmother who she obviously ly thought 01:54:52.800 --> 01:54:54.456 a great deal of and 01:54:54.480 --> 01:54:57.456 loved we also in the library 01:54:57.480 --> 01:54:59.976 significantly for a lot of people fund 01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:03.000 English con conversation classes that 01:55:03.360 --> 01:55:06.360 last for two hours every Tuesday for 01:55:06.920 --> 01:55:09.175 every week of the school term and 01:55:09.199 --> 01:55:11.215 they're also done in our library now 01:55:11.239 --> 01:55:12.736 these are things that we're doing 01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:15.760 already that promote people 01:55:16.159 --> 01:55:18.615 understanding how being multilingual is 01:55:18.639 --> 01:55:21.639 is a good thing but 01:55:22.880 --> 01:55:25.880 picking a day here and a day there and I 01:55:26.360 --> 01:55:29.296 think we just lose the plot as far as 01:55:29.320 --> 01:55:32.320 what we can do and what we are doing in 01:55:33.800 --> 01:55:36.800 the community already in relation to the 01:55:37.320 --> 01:55:40.055 issue at hand and again if I think of my 01:55:40.079 --> 01:55:42.976 own daughter for a moment she she has 01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:43.976 three 01:55:44.000 --> 01:55:47.000 languages when she went to school in 01:55:48.880 --> 01:55:51.880 France every French child at school 01:55:52.639 --> 01:55:55.416 learns three languages they learn French 01:55:55.440 --> 01:55:57.456 because it's the national language they 01:55:57.480 --> 01:56:00.215 learn English because of its impact and 01:56:00.239 --> 01:56:02.496 spread around the world and they learn 01:56:02.520 --> 01:56:04.615 they choose a third language most of 01:56:04.639 --> 01:56:06.016 them pick Spanish because apparently 01:56:06.040 --> 01:56:07.976 it's close to French and it's easy and 01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:09.536 the ones who want a bit harder course 01:56:09.560 --> 01:56:10.655 and a bit something a bit more 01:56:10.679 --> 01:56:13.679 imaginative pick Japanese so languages 01:56:14.520 --> 01:56:16.976 and being able to speak more than one is 01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:19.816 important but I think we need to have if 01:56:19.840 --> 01:56:21.976 we're going to start supporting days we 01:56:22.000 --> 01:56:23.896 need to look at all the days that are 01:56:23.920 --> 01:56:26.615 available to support because I might 01:56:26.639 --> 01:56:29.639 have thought for example that this the 01:56:30.040 --> 01:56:32.135 whole week which internationally from 01:56:32.159 --> 01:56:35.159 the 21st to the 27th of March which is 01:56:35.840 --> 01:56:37.896 the international solidarity against 01:56:37.920 --> 01:56:40.736 racial discrimination week might have 01:56:40.760 --> 01:56:43.760 been one that that might have been a 01:56:43.800 --> 01:56:46.800 little bit of Greater import for us so I 01:56:47.960 --> 01:56:49.736 just want us to go back to tours and 01:56:49.760 --> 01:56:51.776 look at them all maybe we support this 01:56:51.800 --> 01:56:53.896 one maybe we don't cherry pick that one 01:56:53.920 --> 01:56:56.655 we support others thank you councelor 01:56:56.679 --> 01:56:59.095 are there any speakers for the amendment 01:56:59.119 --> 01:57:00.456 councelor 01:57:00.480 --> 01:57:03.480 Siri thank you Madame Mayor I support 01:57:04.719 --> 01:57:06.496 the amendment 01:57:06.520 --> 01:57:09.055 wholeheartedly and I oppose the original 01:57:09.079 --> 01:57:10.816 motion because the motion original 01:57:10.840 --> 01:57:13.336 motion is not clear it appears as a 01:57:13.360 --> 01:57:15.376 repetition of what Camden council is 01:57:15.400 --> 01:57:18.400 already doing the motion asks about 01:57:19.599 --> 01:57:22.175 the international mother language day 01:57:22.199 --> 01:57:24.655 it's redundant as we are already 01:57:24.679 --> 01:57:27.215 celebrating so the original motion asked 01:57:27.239 --> 01:57:29.416 for observing so we are observing on 01:57:29.440 --> 01:57:31.936 21st February International mother 01:57:31.960 --> 01:57:34.296 language day globally by the United 01:57:34.320 --> 01:57:37.055 Nations and locally by the council 01:57:37.079 --> 01:57:39.095 council is already raising awareness 01:57:39.119 --> 01:57:41.135 through multiple social media posts and 01:57:41.159 --> 01:57:43.456 other initiatives making the original 01:57:43.480 --> 01:57:46.256 motion totally unnecessary so that there 01:57:46.280 --> 01:57:48.016 is a potential for confusion as the 01:57:48.040 --> 01:57:50.296 motion does not specify any 01:57:50.320 --> 01:57:52.615 recommendations for the council what 01:57:52.639 --> 01:57:55.336 exactly they want to do and as 01:57:55.360 --> 01:57:57.095 councelor Campbell said we already have 01:57:57.119 --> 01:57:59.135 a multicultural March where we are 01:57:59.159 --> 01:58:01.536 celebrating a NUMBER of Multicultural 01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:03.896 initiatives so without a distinct 01:58:03.920 --> 01:58:05.776 purpose the the original motion May 01:58:05.800 --> 01:58:08.215 create confusion in the community about 01:58:08.239 --> 01:58:10.695 what additional actions if any are being 01:58:10.719 --> 01:58:13.336 taken Beyond existing un and Council 01:58:13.360 --> 01:58:16.360 efforts so we have to look at the rate 01:58:16.440 --> 01:58:18.695 payers money very well said by councelor 01:58:18.719 --> 01:58:20.575 Campbell in regard to better allocation 01:58:20.599 --> 01:58:22.416 of council resources including including 01:58:22.440 --> 01:58:24.416 time and funding it should be directed 01:58:24.440 --> 01:58:26.776 toward new and impactful initiatives 01:58:26.800 --> 01:58:29.175 rather than duplicating existing efforts 01:58:29.199 --> 01:58:31.095 instead of reiterating what is already 01:58:31.119 --> 01:58:33.055 being done council could focus on other 01:58:33.079 --> 01:58:35.736 pressing issues that directly benefit 01:58:35.760 --> 01:58:38.536 the Multicultural community and so 01:58:38.560 --> 01:58:40.376 linking it with one particular day is 01:58:40.400 --> 01:58:42.256 not adding any further value in 01:58:42.280 --> 01:58:44.135 promoting multiculturalism in the real 01:58:44.159 --> 01:58:46.175 sense of the word we need to preserve 01:58:46.199 --> 01:58:48.016 the effectiveness of current efforts of 01:58:48.040 --> 01:58:49.575 council to raise awareness through 01:58:49.599 --> 01:58:51.816 social media and Community engagement 01:58:51.840 --> 01:58:53.936 which are already effective adding an 01:58:53.960 --> 01:58:55.615 additional motion without clear 01:58:55.639 --> 01:58:58.256 objectives May dilute or distract from 01:58:58.280 --> 01:59:01.055 the council's ongoing excellent work in 01:59:01.079 --> 01:59:03.816 Multicultural realm in Camden LGA so 01:59:03.840 --> 01:59:05.055 there's a need for a more 01:59:05.079 --> 01:59:07.256 action-oriented approach if there is a 01:59:07.280 --> 01:59:08.976 desire to further support linguistic 01:59:09.000 --> 01:59:10.575 diversity it can be combined with 01:59:10.599 --> 01:59:12.856 Multicultural activities and then we can 01:59:12.880 --> 01:59:14.976 create a more action oriented proposal 01:59:15.000 --> 01:59:17.376 for Community Driven initiatives that 01:59:17.400 --> 01:59:19.256 would be more beneficial than simply 01:59:19.280 --> 01:59:21.536 repeating what is already recognized and 01:59:21.560 --> 01:59:22.536 observed 01:59:22.560 --> 01:59:24.776 I totally agree the importance of 01:59:24.800 --> 01:59:26.615 international mother language day that 01:59:26.639 --> 01:59:28.615 is unquestionable however the original 01:59:28.639 --> 01:59:31.336 motion does not add any value beyond 01:59:31.360 --> 01:59:33.416 what is already being done at Global and 01:59:33.440 --> 01:59:35.615 local levels council's efforts would be 01:59:35.639 --> 01:59:37.175 better spent on new and tangible 01:59:37.199 --> 01:59:38.816 initiatives that truly support 01:59:38.840 --> 01:59:40.655 linguistic diversity and Multicultural 01:59:40.679 --> 01:59:43.175 communities we need to look after rate 01:59:43.199 --> 01:59:45.296 payers money and we have to be very 01:59:45.320 --> 01:59:46.896 careful about how we allocate our 01:59:46.920 --> 01:59:49.816 resources hence I oppose the original 01:59:49.840 --> 01:59:51.376 motion and I support the amendment of 01:59:51.400 --> 01:59:52.976 the motion by councelor Campbell thank 01:59:53.000 --> 01:59:55.615 you thank you councelor sui I have a 01:59:55.639 --> 01:59:57.936 quick question Mr general manager if you 01:59:57.960 --> 02:00:00.816 could either answer it or refer it on 02:00:00.840 --> 02:00:03.840 in terms of this year's social media 02:00:04.679 --> 02:00:07.215 recognition of international Mother Day 02:00:07.239 --> 02:00:09.856 language and what we have done as a 02:00:09.880 --> 02:00:11.655 council previously could we get a little 02:00:11.679 --> 02:00:14.575 bit of a insight into what we've done 02:00:14.599 --> 02:00:17.599 in previous years especially and 02:00:19.239 --> 02:00:22.016 where the social media recognition of 02:00:22.040 --> 02:00:23.736 International Mother Day language for 02:00:23.760 --> 02:00:26.296 this year came 02:00:26.320 --> 02:00:29.135 from thank you I'll refer this to 02:00:29.159 --> 02:00:31.575 council's director sport community and 02:00:31.599 --> 02:00:33.655 Activation so through you Mr general 02:00:33.679 --> 02:00:35.336 manager counselor so this was the first 02:00:35.360 --> 02:00:37.376 year that we actually celebrated or 02:00:37.400 --> 02:00:38.655 acknowledged International mother 02:00:38.679 --> 02:00:41.256 language day a lot of our Multicultural 02:00:41.280 --> 02:00:42.695 events and initiatives are celebrated 02:00:42.719 --> 02:00:45.719 during Multicultural 02:00:46.000 --> 02:00:48.736 March thank you and a further 02:00:48.760 --> 02:00:51.760 question where did the initiative to 02:00:52.320 --> 02:00:54.496 promote International Mother Day 02:00:54.520 --> 02:00:57.095 language this year on social media where 02:00:57.119 --> 02:00:58.976 did that eventuate 02:00:59.000 --> 02:01:01.615 from so it was through you Mr general 02:01:01.639 --> 02:01:03.575 manager councils it was discussed at 02:01:03.599 --> 02:01:05.856 our cohesive communities reference 02:01:05.880 --> 02:01:08.416 group last year it was an initiative 02:01:08.440 --> 02:01:10.256 where Council rman was previously part 02:01:10.280 --> 02:01:12.816 of that group and was advocating for but 02:01:12.840 --> 02:01:15.016 the idea came through our diversity 02:01:15.040 --> 02:01:17.575 and inclusion officer thank you very 02:01:17.599 --> 02:01:19.736 much do we have any speakers for the 02:01:19.760 --> 02:01:22.296 amendment 02:01:22.320 --> 02:01:23.896 councelor 02:01:23.920 --> 02:01:26.655 Ferreri yeah look I'm not opposed to the 02:01:26.679 --> 02:01:29.376 amendment I looking at I'm looking at 02:01:29.400 --> 02:01:32.400 councilor Rama's sorry Council raman's 02:01:32.760 --> 02:01:34.936 motion I think she's just asking to 02:01:34.960 --> 02:01:37.960 recognize it so I don't see a cost there 02:01:38.440 --> 02:01:40.575 in recognizing but maybe I'm wrong 02:01:40.599 --> 02:01:43.599 and I'm all for transparency and and 02:01:43.800 --> 02:01:45.336 you know I don't like spending rate 02:01:45.360 --> 02:01:46.736 payers money but I guess you know be 02:01:46.760 --> 02:01:48.896 careful what you wish for because there 02:01:48.920 --> 02:01:50.336 there may be others that are on the 02:01:50.360 --> 02:01:52.736 chopping block that you may lik it but 02:01:52.760 --> 02:01:54.896 look I'm all for transparency and I 02:01:54.920 --> 02:01:56.976 think that'll probably pass anyway I 02:01:57.000 --> 02:01:59.296 think it's a good initiative but I'm 02:01:59.320 --> 02:02:01.736 I'm happy with the amendment to thank 02:02:01.760 --> 02:02:04.095 you councelor Ferreri do we have any 02:02:04.119 --> 02:02:07.119 speakers against the amendment councelor 02:02:08.360 --> 02:02:09.536 02:02:09.560 --> 02:02:12.456 Cornell thank you Madame May 02:02:12.480 --> 02:02:15.480 I'm also as counselor for said you 02:02:16.520 --> 02:02:19.520 know we we can do a review of of the 02:02:21.560 --> 02:02:23.655 the at international data we support but 02:02:23.679 --> 02:02:25.496 I find it very disappointing that we 02:02:25.520 --> 02:02:28.095 attach an amendment that talks about 02:02:28.119 --> 02:02:31.119 cost to this to this motion tonight this 02:02:31.599 --> 02:02:33.215 motion is obviously 02:02:33.239 --> 02:02:36.135 clearly directed to people such as 02:02:36.159 --> 02:02:38.055 Council sari and Council Ramen who have 02:02:38.079 --> 02:02:40.296 come to this country and we want to 02:02:40.320 --> 02:02:42.376 recognize that there is international 02:02:42.400 --> 02:02:45.400 Mother's language days I'm talk if you 02:02:46.360 --> 02:02:48.296 don't have an actual point of order for 02:02:48.320 --> 02:02:50.776 me to rule on my point of order is the 02:02:50.800 --> 02:02:53.655 councelor is in applying something no no 02:02:53.679 --> 02:02:56.095 that's not a point of councelor Campbell 02:02:56.119 --> 02:02:58.016 so if if you do if you if you do want to 02:02:58.040 --> 02:03:00.575 review raise a motion and let's pass 02:03:00.599 --> 02:03:02.175 that motion to review all the all the 02:03:02.199 --> 02:03:03.896 days but I think we should pass the 02:03:03.920 --> 02:03:05.615 motion as as as recommended in the 02:03:05.639 --> 02:03:08.639 business papers thank you councelor quel 02:03:08.840 --> 02:03:11.016 are there any speakers for the 02:03:11.040 --> 02:03:13.456 amendment you've already 02:03:13.480 --> 02:03:16.175 spoken councelor 02:03:16.199 --> 02:03:19.199 mlan I guess what's been raised I had to 02:03:19.480 --> 02:03:22.336 look at this motion 02:03:22.360 --> 02:03:25.360 prior of the meeting of course and I'm 02:03:26.400 --> 02:03:28.416 totally supportive of it but I guess 02:03:28.440 --> 02:03:31.440 what's been raised is the fact that we 02:03:32.280 --> 02:03:34.536 we need further information I'm not I'm 02:03:34.560 --> 02:03:37.215 partly familiar with our our calendar of 02:03:37.239 --> 02:03:40.239 celebrations and recognitions and 02:03:40.840 --> 02:03:43.840 and celebrations of various 02:03:43.960 --> 02:03:45.535 important days throughout the year and 02:03:45.559 --> 02:03:47.776 there are many but it would be good 02:03:47.800 --> 02:03:49.416 to get a briefing 02:03:49.440 --> 02:03:52.440 because it's 02:03:52.719 --> 02:03:54.655 important that we 02:03:54.679 --> 02:03:57.055 understand how they are linked 02:03:57.079 --> 02:03:59.856 together I guess the I don't want to 02:03:59.880 --> 02:04:01.695 I'll say it anyway the hierarchy as well 02:04:01.719 --> 02:04:03.856 there's there's there's a NUMBER of 02:04:03.880 --> 02:04:06.615 incredibly important days I think 02:04:06.639 --> 02:04:07.896 it's fair to say actually there really 02:04:07.920 --> 02:04:09.816 are a NUMBER of extremely important days 02:04:09.840 --> 02:04:12.175 we've got one coming up at the end of 02:04:12.199 --> 02:04:15.199 next month and they I guess perhaps sit 02:04:16.679 --> 02:04:19.256 it a a 02:04:19.280 --> 02:04:22.280 more wider recognition 02:04:22.559 --> 02:04:25.376 and and communication of of that 02:04:25.400 --> 02:04:27.416 significance and then there's there's 02:04:27.440 --> 02:04:30.440 other days as well and I I agree we we 02:04:30.920 --> 02:04:32.896 don't need to talk too much about the 02:04:32.920 --> 02:04:35.575 cost but we really do need to talk about 02:04:35.599 --> 02:04:38.599 how that works how that's I guess 02:04:39.440 --> 02:04:42.440 represented and hierarchy is the 02:04:43.000 --> 02:04:44.256 wrong word but I can't come up with a 02:04:44.280 --> 02:04:47.280 better one so that we have we have 02:04:47.599 --> 02:04:50.496 the the appropriate and assigned 02:04:50.520 --> 02:04:52.135 recognition to 02:04:52.159 --> 02:04:54.376 you know multiple there's dozens of them 02:04:54.400 --> 02:04:56.256 throughout the year and this this 02:04:56.280 --> 02:04:58.896 absolutely is one but I certainly 02:04:58.920 --> 02:05:01.920 think it needs to be referred to 02:05:03.320 --> 02:05:05.256 referred back to council for briefings 02:05:05.280 --> 02:05:07.896 CU I'm not 100% familiar with every 02:05:07.920 --> 02:05:09.695 single one of them I have to be honest 02:05:09.719 --> 02:05:11.575 and it' be good to understand exactly 02:05:11.599 --> 02:05:14.599 how that how that is arranged and 02:05:16.880 --> 02:05:19.575 coordinated thank you councelor mlan do 02:05:19.599 --> 02:05:22.175 we have any speakers against the 02:05:22.199 --> 02:05:24.936 Amendment for the 02:05:24.960 --> 02:05:27.016 amendment you've already spoken for the 02:05:27.040 --> 02:05:30.040 amendment Council Siri do we have any 02:05:30.159 --> 02:05:32.376 questions councelor 02:05:32.400 --> 02:05:34.655 Sicari my question is towards 02:05:34.679 --> 02:05:37.679 councelor raham in this motion that 02:05:39.679 --> 02:05:42.679 you have put and everyone seems to be 02:05:42.719 --> 02:05:44.135 concerned about 02:05:44.159 --> 02:05:47.159 costs do you have have any figures of 02:05:48.719 --> 02:05:50.055 costs that you think that would be 02:05:50.079 --> 02:05:52.175 involved 02:05:52.199 --> 02:05:54.695 thank you councelor sikari this motion 02:05:54.719 --> 02:05:57.215 was all about just recognition of the 02:05:57.239 --> 02:06:00.239 day and we as we celebrate many other 02:06:01.119 --> 02:06:04.119 days specifically even we just 02:06:04.760 --> 02:06:07.615 celebrated International women's day not 02:06:07.639 --> 02:06:10.639 exactly on 8th of March we actually 02:06:12.079 --> 02:06:15.079 celebrated earlier so considering 21st 02:06:15.119 --> 02:06:18.119 of March as part the amendment motion 02:06:18.320 --> 02:06:20.135 been requested that if we are 02:06:20.159 --> 02:06:23.159 celebrating on r 21st of U February it 02:06:24.440 --> 02:06:26.376 is 7 or 8 days prior to the 02:06:26.400 --> 02:06:28.615 Multicultural month days which is 02:06:28.639 --> 02:06:31.639 conflicting the events the celebration 02:06:31.719 --> 02:06:34.719 is not or recognition even observing the 02:06:35.599 --> 02:06:38.376 day is not particularly mention in that 02:06:38.400 --> 02:06:40.296 original motion that it has to be 02:06:40.320 --> 02:06:43.320 through events we are waiting for 02:06:43.400 --> 02:06:46.400 another 11th months to work on these 02:06:47.079 --> 02:06:49.456 through our Multicultural reference 02:06:49.480 --> 02:06:52.480 group and we can deter Mind through that 02:06:52.920 --> 02:06:55.920 group again in a way that we celebrated 02:06:56.480 --> 02:06:59.480 this year by posting social media post 02:07:00.520 --> 02:07:03.520 and also different activities through 02:07:04.320 --> 02:07:07.320 year whole activities focusing on 02:07:07.719 --> 02:07:10.719 Multicultural Community multilingual 02:07:10.880 --> 02:07:13.615 Community those events are already there 02:07:13.639 --> 02:07:16.336 programs are already there all these 02:07:16.360 --> 02:07:18.896 motion stands for is just that 02:07:18.920 --> 02:07:21.920 recognition it did not determine any 02:07:22.119 --> 02:07:24.456 cost involvement it did not 02:07:24.480 --> 02:07:27.480 determination of any particular event 02:07:28.199 --> 02:07:31.199 that we have to announce for or 02:07:31.520 --> 02:07:34.520 celebrate on that day until we find out 02:07:35.239 --> 02:07:37.055 through the Multicultural reference 02:07:37.079 --> 02:07:39.416 group what will be done through the 02:07:39.440 --> 02:07:40.896 community people community 02:07:40.920 --> 02:07:43.920 representatives are there in there so 02:07:44.079 --> 02:07:47.079 purely this motion is requesting to 02:07:47.559 --> 02:07:49.615 get the recognition for that time 02:07:49.639 --> 02:07:52.336 Council what I might do is just redirect 02:07:52.360 --> 02:07:55.256 councelor sari's question for 02:07:55.280 --> 02:07:57.175 clarification from Council staff how 02:07:57.199 --> 02:08:00.199 much it cost this year to 02:08:00.840 --> 02:08:03.416 recognize inter International Mother Day 02:08:03.440 --> 02:08:05.776 language language day via social 02:08:05.800 --> 02:08:08.800 media this year Mr general manager 02:08:09.400 --> 02:08:11.695 I'll seek input from our director sport 02:08:11.719 --> 02:08:13.575 community in activation but it would not 02:08:13.599 --> 02:08:14.816 have been a large 02:08:14.840 --> 02:08:16.856 amount through you Mr general manager 02:08:16.880 --> 02:08:18.896 Council it was a ne ne cost it was done 02:08:18.920 --> 02:08:20.376 through social media we did that inh 02:08:20.400 --> 02:08:23.400 house thank you councelor sakur your 02:08:25.239 --> 02:08:27.976 your 02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:30.055 reply of order was your point of order 02:08:30.079 --> 02:08:32.456 counselor the point of order is that the 02:08:32.480 --> 02:08:35.480 cost to rate payers refers to council 02:08:35.719 --> 02:08:37.776 making a decision about the 02:08:37.800 --> 02:08:39.816 international days that we may wish to 02:08:39.840 --> 02:08:42.736 support it doesn't specifically refer as 02:08:42.760 --> 02:08:44.896 has been implied no what's your what's 02:08:44.920 --> 02:08:46.695 what's your point of order specifically 02:08:46.719 --> 02:08:48.816 well that's not a point of order 02:08:48.840 --> 02:08:51.840 councelor Ramen your right of reply 02:08:54.079 --> 02:08:57.079 I strictly go with the original motion 02:08:57.360 --> 02:09:00.360 Madame May and also I would again 02:09:01.000 --> 02:09:03.535 recommend Council to recognize and 02:09:03.559 --> 02:09:04.976 observe the significance of 02:09:05.000 --> 02:09:06.976 international mother language day and 02:09:07.000 --> 02:09:09.695 observe it annually thank you thank you 02:09:09.719 --> 02:09:12.376 counselor with that I put the amendment 02:09:12.400 --> 02:09:15.095 so just to clarify once again we are 02:09:15.119 --> 02:09:18.095 now going to vote on the amendment as 02:09:18.119 --> 02:09:21.119 per councelor Campbell and the 02:09:21.599 --> 02:09:24.599 council Suri that we 02:09:25.800 --> 02:09:28.800 refer to a briefing to be held on the op 02:09:29.679 --> 02:09:32.376 to be held on the options Council has to 02:09:32.400 --> 02:09:35.095 support International days to decide 02:09:35.119 --> 02:09:38.119 what we want to support and what cost to 02:09:38.239 --> 02:09:41.239 rate payers all those in favor of the 02:09:41.559 --> 02:09:43.856 amendment councelor Campbell councelor 02:09:43.880 --> 02:09:46.776 mlan councelor Ferreri councelor Suri 02:09:46.800 --> 02:09:49.215 all those against councelor Ramen 02:09:49.239 --> 02:09:51.535 councelor quenel councelor Sicari 02:09:51.559 --> 02:09:54.456 councilor Fedeli and with the meral 02:09:54.480 --> 02:09:57.055 casting vote I vote against the 02:09:57.079 --> 02:10:00.079 amendment the amendment is lost so 02:10:00.559 --> 02:10:03.376 councilor Ramen will revert back to your 02:10:03.400 --> 02:10:05.336 original motion would you like to speak 02:10:05.360 --> 02:10:07.615 to it or has everything the words been 02:10:07.639 --> 02:10:09.776 done we' we've covered everything we 02:10:09.800 --> 02:10:12.800 covered everything you coun do we have a 02:10:13.199 --> 02:10:16.199 second councelor quell thank you any 02:10:16.599 --> 02:10:18.336 speakers 02:10:18.360 --> 02:10:19.976 for 02:10:20.000 --> 02:10:22.856 against question 02:10:22.880 --> 02:10:25.016 with that I put the original motion 02:10:25.040 --> 02:10:26.896 forward all those in favor oh councelor 02:10:26.920 --> 02:10:28.736 Siri you have a question I have a 02:10:28.760 --> 02:10:31.615 question because the motion is asking 02:10:31.639 --> 02:10:34.639 the council to observe so my question is 02:10:34.920 --> 02:10:37.816 are we not 02:10:37.840 --> 02:10:40.575 observing so my question to the council 02:10:40.599 --> 02:10:43.055 is are we not observing it in the 02:10:43.079 --> 02:10:46.079 present Mr general manager to that 02:10:46.480 --> 02:10:49.095 question this year for the first time 02:10:49.119 --> 02:10:51.856 as was already responded to council 02:10:51.880 --> 02:10:54.880 did also post some some things on 02:10:55.480 --> 02:10:58.480 on social media and did observe the day 02:10:58.960 --> 02:11:01.776 in that in that 02:11:01.800 --> 02:11:04.655 regard with that I put the original 02:11:04.679 --> 02:11:06.655 motion forward all those in 02:11:06.679 --> 02:11:09.496 favor councelor mlan councelor Raman 02:11:09.520 --> 02:11:11.776 councelor quel councelor fer councelor 02:11:11.800 --> 02:11:14.215 Sicari councelor fideli councelor Ashley 02:11:14.239 --> 02:11:15.896 Kagney those 02:11:15.920 --> 02:11:18.736 against councelor sui councelor Campbell 02:11:18.760 --> 02:11:21.760 the motion is carried 02:11:22.040 --> 02:11:25.040 on to item 16 notice of motion bus 02:11:25.639 --> 02:11:26.736 shelter 02:11:26.760 --> 02:11:29.416 strategy there is a recommendation on 02:11:29.440 --> 02:11:30.496 page 02:11:30.520 --> 02:11:33.496 78 councilor Ramen as the Mover of this 02:11:33.520 --> 02:11:35.695 notice of motion you're happy to move 02:11:35.719 --> 02:11:37.976 that do we have a secondar councelor 02:11:38.000 --> 02:11:41.000 Cornell over to you councelor Ramen 02:11:41.159 --> 02:11:42.896 thank you Madame 02:11:42.920 --> 02:11:45.920 May the c l requires a comprehensive bus 02:11:46.760 --> 02:11:48.376 strategies to enhance public 02:11:48.400 --> 02:11:50.016 transportation accessibility and 02:11:50.040 --> 02:11:52.976 connectivity for it residents we must 02:11:53.000 --> 02:11:55.976 consider both existing subbs and the 02:11:56.000 --> 02:11:58.655 newly rapidly growing areas including K 02:11:58.679 --> 02:12:00.575 Catherine field Katherine Park Elders Le 02:12:00.599 --> 02:12:03.599 Mountan cill Elis Lane Spring Farm Oran 02:12:04.400 --> 02:12:06.776 Park and gwood Hills as these Regents 02:12:06.800 --> 02:12:09.800 continue to extend expand and effective 02:12:10.760 --> 02:12:13.615 bus network will improve Mobility 02:12:13.639 --> 02:12:16.615 eleviate eleviate traffic congestions 02:12:16.639 --> 02:12:19.095 and promote sustainable Transportation 02:12:19.119 --> 02:12:22.119 options the lack of bus Shel 02:12:22.400 --> 02:12:25.376 in Camden LGA significantly hinders 02:12:25.400 --> 02:12:27.496 residents willingness to use public 02:12:27.520 --> 02:12:30.520 transport many bus stops lack shelters 02:12:31.040 --> 02:12:34.040 forcing patrons to wait in harsh weather 02:12:34.119 --> 02:12:36.256 conditions which is particularly 02:12:36.280 --> 02:12:39.280 challenging for the elderly parents and 02:12:39.440 --> 02:12:41.695 young children and individuals with 02:12:41.719 --> 02:12:44.416 disabilities this situation not only 02:12:44.440 --> 02:12:47.296 makes waiting uncomfortable but also 02:12:47.320 --> 02:12:49.896 reinforces the perception of public 02:12:49.920 --> 02:12:51.695 transport as 02:12:51.719 --> 02:12:54.719 inconvenient and uninviting discouraging 02:12:55.159 --> 02:12:57.575 potential users and oring traffic 02:12:57.599 --> 02:12:59.655 congestion while under undermining 02:12:59.679 --> 02:13:02.496 environmental objectives installing 02:13:02.520 --> 02:13:05.175 modern bus shelters would not only 02:13:05.199 --> 02:13:07.816 provide essential protection from the 02:13:07.840 --> 02:13:10.840 elements but also enhance the Aesthetics 02:13:11.159 --> 02:13:14.159 of the neighborhoods and after offer 02:13:14.280 --> 02:13:16.496 amenities like seating lighting and 02:13:16.520 --> 02:13:18.776 realtime information displays creating a 02:13:18.800 --> 02:13:21.800 more welc coming waiting experience by 02:13:22.400 --> 02:13:25.055 addressing the specific needs of these 02:13:25.079 --> 02:13:27.936 communities the BS strategy can facilate 02:13:27.960 --> 02:13:30.416 better access to essential services 02:13:30.440 --> 02:13:32.816 employment opportunities and educational 02:13:32.840 --> 02:13:35.840 institutions are untimely ultimately 02:13:36.800 --> 02:13:39.800 improving the quality of life for 02:13:39.920 --> 02:13:42.215 residents therefore I recommend that 02:13:42.239 --> 02:13:44.456 Council receive a briefing outlining the 02:13:44.480 --> 02:13:47.095 scope and cost associated with 02:13:47.119 --> 02:13:49.175 installing bus shelters across the 02:13:49.199 --> 02:13:52.199 Camden LGA thank you m May thank you 02:13:52.360 --> 02:13:54.376 councelor Ramen do we have any speakers 02:13:54.400 --> 02:13:57.135 for the notice of motion councilor 02:13:57.159 --> 02:13:59.336 quel thank you Madame may I thank 02:13:59.360 --> 02:14:02.360 councilor Ramen for bringing this motion 02:14:03.440 --> 02:14:06.175 I would note that providing bu shs 02:14:06.199 --> 02:14:09.199 across LGA is a very ambitious 02:14:11.480 --> 02:14:14.135 plan but yeah we we're here to be 02:14:14.159 --> 02:14:17.159 ambitious so we good but we need to 02:14:17.840 --> 02:14:20.336 improve if we're really going to make 02:14:20.360 --> 02:14:22.256 public transport work in Cam and we need 02:14:22.280 --> 02:14:24.135 to make buses attractive for people to 02:14:24.159 --> 02:14:26.575 catch and and currently standing next to 02:14:26.599 --> 02:14:29.599 a a a metal pole in the rain or 40° 02:14:29.960 --> 02:14:32.960 isn't very attractive so we need to 02:14:34.400 --> 02:14:36.336 so it would be good to understand the 02:14:36.360 --> 02:14:39.360 scope of what it would take to provide 02:14:39.520 --> 02:14:41.896 modern attractive bus shelters across 02:14:41.920 --> 02:14:44.920 the LGA so then when opportunities 02:14:45.679 --> 02:14:47.296 come when you know we're looking at 02:14:47.320 --> 02:14:49.575 forward planning budgets if we can put 02:14:49.599 --> 02:14:51.695 some money towards it as as a Council or 02:14:51.719 --> 02:14:54.496 there opportunities for state 02:14:54.520 --> 02:14:56.175 government funding come up that we have 02:14:56.199 --> 02:14:58.416 the we we have the data to hand that we 02:14:58.440 --> 02:15:01.440 can move quickly to to to progress 02:15:02.679 --> 02:15:04.776 these these shelters and it look it 02:15:04.800 --> 02:15:07.055 might just be might be drip feeding 02:15:07.079 --> 02:15:08.575 every couple of you know one or two a 02:15:08.599 --> 02:15:11.016 year get get get done but we just keep 02:15:11.040 --> 02:15:13.496 chipping away you know within within 5 02:15:13.520 --> 02:15:16.215 to 10 years we might have a a much much 02:15:16.239 --> 02:15:19.239 better bus Network thank you thank 02:15:19.360 --> 02:15:20.535 you councelor are there any other 02:15:20.559 --> 02:15:23.559 speakers for the motion Council mlan 02:15:23.679 --> 02:15:25.376 thanks Madame Mayor and thank you 02:15:25.400 --> 02:15:28.296 Council Roman for your motion I'm 02:15:28.320 --> 02:15:31.320 happy to support and agree with u 02:15:32.199 --> 02:15:34.776 councilor corell's additional points 02:15:34.800 --> 02:15:37.736 particularly around a plan I'm assing 02:15:37.760 --> 02:15:40.760 the the the briefing will inevitably 02:15:42.000 --> 02:15:44.896 include that plans and potential grants 02:15:44.920 --> 02:15:47.336 current maintenance schedules 02:15:47.360 --> 02:15:48.736 which I believe are in place and I 02:15:48.760 --> 02:15:50.615 believe there is a small allocation of 02:15:50.639 --> 02:15:52.816 budget towards that but it would be good 02:15:52.840 --> 02:15:55.840 to discuss that all at once and and 02:15:56.119 --> 02:15:57.655 I'd like to also know a bit more about 02:15:57.679 --> 02:16:00.055 the advertising policy as as well I know 02:16:00.079 --> 02:16:01.615 that that's come up at a few councils 02:16:01.639 --> 02:16:04.055 recently and it's a an interesting 02:16:04.079 --> 02:16:06.416 one we do use that but how we could use 02:16:06.440 --> 02:16:09.440 it more effectively towards 02:16:09.760 --> 02:16:12.760 Community gain and potentially other 02:16:13.239 --> 02:16:16.239 appropriate advertisers let's just 02:16:16.480 --> 02:16:19.480 say I do make the other point though 02:16:20.440 --> 02:16:21.816 02:16:21.840 --> 02:16:23.655 an attractive public transport we need 02:16:23.679 --> 02:16:26.679 to have more public transport we all 02:16:26.719 --> 02:16:29.095 agree on that point and I'll continue to 02:16:29.119 --> 02:16:31.135 make it not just about buses we need 02:16:31.159 --> 02:16:33.056 more of them we need rapid transport 02:16:33.080 --> 02:16:36.080 links to key areas including the airport 02:16:36.559 --> 02:16:38.256 I know there are some on their way but 02:16:38.280 --> 02:16:41.016 it is absolutely dismal out here and 02:16:41.040 --> 02:16:43.575 we need trains public transport in 02:16:43.599 --> 02:16:46.599 general when I say that so I will 02:16:46.760 --> 02:16:49.575 never not take the opportunity to 02:16:49.599 --> 02:16:51.216 throw that one in as well thank you you 02:16:51.240 --> 02:16:53.136 thank you Council mlan the time is 02:16:53.160 --> 02:16:55.295 certainly now for better schools better 02:16:55.319 --> 02:16:58.056 rail better bus connection good job 02:16:58.080 --> 02:16:59.896 do we have any other speakers for the 02:16:59.920 --> 02:17:02.920 motion councelor Campbell thank you 02:17:03.639 --> 02:17:05.856 the concept of bus shelters is one that 02:17:05.880 --> 02:17:08.880 I actually support as has been said 02:17:09.840 --> 02:17:12.840 they keep the rain off commuters and 02:17:13.599 --> 02:17:16.455 the Australian Sunshine is not very good 02:17:16.479 --> 02:17:18.736 for your skin so it keeps the sunshine 02:17:18.760 --> 02:17:20.856 off you and they also provide a conv 02:17:20.880 --> 02:17:23.816 venient canvas for Street artists and 02:17:23.840 --> 02:17:26.840 I'm all for art however in Camden LGA 02:17:27.280 --> 02:17:29.136 like has just been expressed by a 02:17:29.160 --> 02:17:31.096 couple of counselors what we really need 02:17:31.120 --> 02:17:33.455 to do is advocate for 02:17:33.479 --> 02:17:36.479 buses particularly mini buses to link 02:17:36.960 --> 02:17:39.896 into the bigger Longer bus routes 02:17:39.920 --> 02:17:42.495 because if you if you're lucky enough to 02:17:42.519 --> 02:17:45.519 have a bus shelter in Camden and if 02:17:46.040 --> 02:17:48.375 you're lucky enough to get a bus in 02:17:48.399 --> 02:17:51.399 Camden then you do an hour scenic drive 02:17:53.639 --> 02:17:55.776 through various suburbs before you get 02:17:55.800 --> 02:17:57.535 to a place like Campbell toown railway 02:17:57.559 --> 02:17:58.936 station which is probably where you 02:17:58.960 --> 02:18:01.335 wanted to go in the first place so the 02:18:01.359 --> 02:18:04.136 notion of having little buses that zot 02:18:04.160 --> 02:18:06.535 around the place conveniently for people 02:18:06.559 --> 02:18:09.335 and Link into those bigger longer 02:18:09.359 --> 02:18:10.976 Roots is something that we should be 02:18:11.000 --> 02:18:13.375 looking at as well but I'm all for 02:18:13.399 --> 02:18:15.976 actually outlining the scope and costs 02:18:16.000 --> 02:18:18.415 associated with the installing shelters 02:18:18.439 --> 02:18:20.896 across the LGA thank you thank you counc 02:18:20.920 --> 02:18:22.535 Campell are there any other speakers for 02:18:22.559 --> 02:18:24.816 the motion councelor 02:18:24.840 --> 02:18:27.840 Siri so the idea of bus shelters is good 02:18:29.120 --> 02:18:31.976 but I want to add that at this critical 02:18:32.000 --> 02:18:34.615 juncture when Camden is experiencing 02:18:34.639 --> 02:18:37.295 rapid growth and is preparing for the 02:18:37.319 --> 02:18:39.335 operational launch of the new airport in 02:18:39.359 --> 02:18:42.359 2026 our focused must remain steadfast 02:18:43.319 --> 02:18:46.056 on essential infrastructure improvements 02:18:46.080 --> 02:18:48.736 so prioritizing aesthetic enhancements 02:18:48.760 --> 02:18:51.216 over urgent transport needs 02:18:51.240 --> 02:18:53.535 can be a misallocation of resources that 02:18:53.559 --> 02:18:55.575 does not serve the best interest of a 02:18:55.599 --> 02:18:57.495 community councelor Siri can I just stop 02:18:57.519 --> 02:18:59.936 you there what what you're proposing 02:18:59.960 --> 02:19:01.976 now are you proposing an amendment to 02:19:02.000 --> 02:19:04.295 this motion no I'm not but I'm just 02:19:04.319 --> 02:19:07.056 wanting that we should not derail from 02:19:07.080 --> 02:19:09.776 the real Focus which is very clearly 02:19:09.800 --> 02:19:12.016 outlined in this you're just making a 02:19:12.040 --> 02:19:13.495 you're just making a generic Point 02:19:13.519 --> 02:19:15.776 you're not wanting to change the generic 02:19:15.800 --> 02:19:18.615 point that we should along with the bus 02:19:18.639 --> 02:19:20.816 shelters we should keep the focus on the 02:19:20.840 --> 02:19:23.535 rapid and increased bus services and the 02:19:23.559 --> 02:19:25.615 Very essential drail link which is 02:19:25.639 --> 02:19:28.639 needed for a Camden area and we have to 02:19:29.760 --> 02:19:32.760 Lobby about more bus services you 02:19:33.120 --> 02:19:34.936 need bus shelters when you have bus 02:19:34.960 --> 02:19:36.936 services otherwise they just become a 02:19:36.960 --> 02:19:39.495 canvas for graffiti people are waiting 02:19:39.519 --> 02:19:41.256 the commuters are frustrated commuters 02:19:41.280 --> 02:19:42.936 are waiting for buses which are not 02:19:42.960 --> 02:19:44.816 arriving but the bus shelter is there 02:19:44.840 --> 02:19:47.840 and also to add modern attractive bu 02:19:48.319 --> 02:19:51.016 shelter when we are looking for the 02:19:51.040 --> 02:19:53.856 basic infrastructure rail lengths more 02:19:53.880 --> 02:19:56.880 roads more better roads but we are 02:19:57.560 --> 02:20:00.560 looking at modern attractive bus 02:20:00.680 --> 02:20:03.680 shelters it's like you know we are 02:20:04.439 --> 02:20:06.335 thinking of Frills over functionality 02:20:06.359 --> 02:20:08.536 you know where like it's the analogy to 02:20:08.560 --> 02:20:10.816 me looks like we are discussing the 02:20:10.840 --> 02:20:12.736 icing on a cake when the community does 02:20:12.760 --> 02:20:14.496 not even have the basic ingredients for 02:20:14.520 --> 02:20:17.520 a meal so attractive bus shelters good 02:20:18.000 --> 02:20:21.000 idea but we must have more bus services 02:20:21.840 --> 02:20:24.016 and the important Rail Link which our 02:20:24.040 --> 02:20:26.375 Camden area or train station for Orin 02:20:26.399 --> 02:20:28.375 Park and nand thank 02:20:28.399 --> 02:20:30.976 you are there any other speakers for the 02:20:31.000 --> 02:20:34.000 notice of motion against do we have any 02:20:35.720 --> 02:20:37.736 questions with that I put the motion 02:20:37.760 --> 02:20:40.696 forward all those in favor unanimous 02:20:40.720 --> 02:20:42.375 thank 02:20:42.399 --> 02:20:45.399 you okay on to item 17 notice of Motion 02:20:46.560 --> 02:20:48.776 state Heritage register we have a 02:20:48.800 --> 02:20:51.800 recommendation on page 79 Council mlan 02:20:52.760 --> 02:20:54.335 this is your motion you're happy to 02:20:54.359 --> 02:20:57.256 proceed as written do we have a second 02:20:57.280 --> 02:20:58.335 councelor 02:20:58.359 --> 02:21:01.176 Campbell over to you Council mlan 02:21:01.200 --> 02:21:04.096 thanks Madame Mayor I have put 02:21:04.120 --> 02:21:06.216 forward a shortest motion actually 02:21:06.240 --> 02:21:09.176 tonight I believe it might be and it 02:21:09.200 --> 02:21:11.496 is very very simple in one line that 02:21:11.520 --> 02:21:14.520 Council apply for the township of Camden 02:21:15.600 --> 02:21:18.600 to be listed on the state Heritage 02:21:18.760 --> 02:21:21.096 register I'm no expert on Heritage 02:21:21.120 --> 02:21:22.736 but fortunately we did hear from one 02:21:22.760 --> 02:21:25.496 tonight Dr Ian Willis and I appreciate 02:21:25.520 --> 02:21:28.216 his his expertise and and 02:21:28.240 --> 02:21:30.896 knowledge that he put forward and I'm 02:21:30.920 --> 02:21:33.016 pleased to say I leared a couple of 02:21:33.040 --> 02:21:36.016 things out of that as well very very 02:21:36.040 --> 02:21:37.216 very 02:21:37.240 --> 02:21:38.216 interesting 02:21:38.240 --> 02:21:39.576 [Music] 02:21:39.600 --> 02:21:42.600 I I love 02:21:42.640 --> 02:21:45.455 Camden and I'm pretty sure everyone 02:21:45.479 --> 02:21:46.896 else does as 02:21:46.920 --> 02:21:49.920 well there's Camden significance 02:21:52.600 --> 02:21:55.600 isn't just local or Regional or 02:21:57.040 --> 02:22:00.040 state it is absolutely nationally 02:22:01.479 --> 02:22:03.375 significant 02:22:03.399 --> 02:22:06.399 and we know that because of well 02:22:07.640 --> 02:22:09.816 going back to the public address from 02:22:09.840 --> 02:22:12.840 Dr Ian Willis but equally we know that 02:22:13.200 --> 02:22:15.216 it is rich in history you can see 02:22:15.240 --> 02:22:16.415 that when you drive through it and you 02:22:16.439 --> 02:22:19.439 can see how it has been very very 02:22:19.479 --> 02:22:22.479 slowly eroded year after year in 02:22:23.920 --> 02:22:25.375 recent 02:22:25.399 --> 02:22:28.399 decades we know that a NUMBER of other 02:22:28.560 --> 02:22:31.560 towns have been Heritage listed and 02:22:33.800 --> 02:22:36.256 that has taken place in recent decades 02:22:36.280 --> 02:22:39.280 as well and I don't want to mean any 02:22:40.160 --> 02:22:42.536 devaluation of those towns Heritage 02:22:42.560 --> 02:22:45.560 items or values because they are 02:22:45.720 --> 02:22:48.136 absolutely worthy of their Heritage 02:22:48.160 --> 02:22:50.976 listing and their Heritage recognition 02:22:51.000 --> 02:22:52.936 on the state Register it's 02:22:52.960 --> 02:22:55.960 absolutely fantastic to see but I 02:22:56.319 --> 02:22:58.736 would absolutely argue that if some of 02:22:58.760 --> 02:23:01.760 these towns have been listed that Camden 02:23:02.319 --> 02:23:04.696 most definitely should have for its 02:23:04.720 --> 02:23:07.720 absolute huge environmental cultural 02:23:09.280 --> 02:23:11.216 and historic 02:23:11.240 --> 02:23:14.240 value but folks we're at AC 02:23:15.800 --> 02:23:18.536 Crossroads we're at a Crossroads 02:23:18.560 --> 02:23:20.776 because we are seeing that slow 02:23:20.800 --> 02:23:23.375 diminishment and erosion of 02:23:23.399 --> 02:23:26.056 Heritage and I will name some towns 02:23:26.080 --> 02:23:28.816 now 02:23:28.840 --> 02:23:31.415 but there has been that erosion 02:23:31.439 --> 02:23:33.295 occurring in Greater Sydney for many 02:23:33.319 --> 02:23:35.616 many decades and I know these places 02:23:35.640 --> 02:23:38.096 well and so to most of us Liverpool 02:23:38.120 --> 02:23:40.536 Richmond campbeltown and penth demain 02:23:40.560 --> 02:23:43.560 just a couple they are literally a very 02:23:44.800 --> 02:23:47.800 very minor representation of what 02:23:49.840 --> 02:23:51.896 their hisor iic values used to be which 02:23:51.920 --> 02:23:54.616 is a dreadful shame if you Meander 02:23:54.640 --> 02:23:56.576 through some of the those locations you 02:23:56.600 --> 02:23:59.600 will see see sort of a a a little speck 02:24:00.960 --> 02:24:03.896 of history and Heritage here but it's 02:24:03.920 --> 02:24:05.375 fragmented 02:24:05.399 --> 02:24:08.399 discontinued and has significantly 02:24:08.800 --> 02:24:11.696 lost a lot of its impact so we can take 02:24:11.720 --> 02:24:13.656 the short-term su Sugar hit of 02:24:13.680 --> 02:24:16.680 development and continual erosion 02:24:17.319 --> 02:24:20.319 or we can protect and reap the rewards 02:24:21.439 --> 02:24:24.439 in perpetuity of the massive economic 02:24:24.800 --> 02:24:26.976 benefit the billions of dollars of 02:24:27.000 --> 02:24:30.000 Tourism investment Economic Development 02:24:30.120 --> 02:24:32.696 and business success that that will 02:24:32.720 --> 02:24:35.720 bring for everyone locally for our 02:24:36.040 --> 02:24:38.696 kids and our kids kids and so on and so 02:24:38.720 --> 02:24:40.776 forth well beyond our 02:24:40.800 --> 02:24:43.800 days so I we we have in the past 02:24:46.240 --> 02:24:49.240 investigated we've sort advice and 02:24:49.680 --> 02:24:52.216 we've we've anal I ized that work's been 02:24:52.240 --> 02:24:55.056 done the work's been done by amazing 02:24:55.080 --> 02:24:57.816 Volunteers in our community sure some 02:24:57.840 --> 02:24:59.936 of that needs to be possibly modified 02:24:59.960 --> 02:25:02.656 updated reformatted perhaps a lot of the 02:25:02.680 --> 02:25:05.016 work's done though so it can simply 02:25:05.040 --> 02:25:07.415 be now the time to 02:25:07.439 --> 02:25:10.439 apply well that's your time well I to 02:25:11.920 --> 02:25:14.920 protect it no that's your time warning I 02:25:16.479 --> 02:25:19.479 see one minute got one minute so yeah 02:25:19.960 --> 02:25:22.496 now now really is the time to look at 02:25:22.520 --> 02:25:25.520 that We've so it's it's really about 02:25:26.000 --> 02:25:28.576 applying for it now there's no we've 02:25:28.600 --> 02:25:30.096 already investigated it we've already 02:25:30.120 --> 02:25:31.936 analyzed it we've already got advice on 02:25:31.960 --> 02:25:34.960 it everyone is supportive of this 02:25:36.439 --> 02:25:38.976 locally at a state level and at a 02:25:39.000 --> 02:25:41.216 federal level it is 02:25:41.240 --> 02:25:44.240 significant so I vote for Camden and 02:25:44.640 --> 02:25:47.640 I vote to protect it thank you thank you 02:25:48.000 --> 02:25:50.255 councelor can I just SE clarification 02:25:50.279 --> 02:25:51.896 you've written here campt and Township 02:25:51.920 --> 02:25:53.816 can we be a little bit more specific 02:25:53.840 --> 02:25:56.840 what exactly the township entails as 02:25:57.680 --> 02:25:59.656 you're referring to 02:25:59.680 --> 02:26:02.680 it the the whole Township of of 02:26:03.359 --> 02:26:06.359 Camden the so the entire suburb of 02:26:06.399 --> 02:26:09.399 Camden the Camden what we class as CBD 02:26:10.319 --> 02:26:13.319 are we talking about our go Street and 02:26:13.359 --> 02:26:15.496 surrounds how far are we talking here 02:26:15.520 --> 02:26:17.856 we're talking the broader Township of 02:26:17.880 --> 02:26:20.880 Camden so is that the whole suburb is 02:26:21.600 --> 02:26:23.736 that what you're referring to the 02:26:23.760 --> 02:26:25.976 including residential well it would 02:26:26.000 --> 02:26:29.000 include the the entire Western side 02:26:29.840 --> 02:26:32.496 of Camden as well as I don't where 02:26:32.520 --> 02:26:35.520 where's the actual suburb boundary to 02:26:35.600 --> 02:26:36.896 the 02:26:36.920 --> 02:26:39.176 east cut off 02:26:39.200 --> 02:26:42.200 or to the past the hospital I 02:26:42.760 --> 02:26:45.176 guess remember it's drive is it the 02:26:45.200 --> 02:26:47.255 hospital is it did you want to make that 02:26:47.279 --> 02:26:49.335 any bit any more specific than Camden 02:26:49.359 --> 02:26:52.295 Township or are you happy to leave it as 02:26:52.319 --> 02:26:55.319 is I'm happy to leave it as is okay 02:26:56.920 --> 02:26:58.736 do we have any speakers for the 02:26:58.760 --> 02:27:01.760 motion councelor Campbell as far as 02:27:02.479 --> 02:27:05.176 the definition of Camden goes there are 02:27:05.200 --> 02:27:08.200 quite established boundaries of where 02:27:08.279 --> 02:27:11.279 the the Heritage Town existed basically 02:27:11.520 --> 02:27:14.520 from the river to M dav's Property 02:27:15.800 --> 02:27:17.496 coming back up through the 02:27:17.520 --> 02:27:20.295 bicentennial up through to the to the 02:27:20.319 --> 02:27:23.319 the Hospital the the V there the 02:27:23.560 --> 02:27:25.056 memorial of 02:27:25.080 --> 02:27:28.080 the of the Rotary Club and down to I 02:27:28.359 --> 02:27:31.359 think from memory it's the street that's 02:27:31.560 --> 02:27:33.016 got the little shop in it where my 02:27:33.040 --> 02:27:35.216 cousins and I used to cash bottles in 02:27:35.240 --> 02:27:36.536 and then take them from the yard and 02:27:36.560 --> 02:27:39.096 recash them in again yeah it's 02:27:39.120 --> 02:27:41.736 there's a set that's that's known what's 02:27:41.760 --> 02:27:44.136 his Heritage camon I was going to say 02:27:44.160 --> 02:27:46.096 that I had the privilege of guiding a 02:27:46.120 --> 02:27:49.096 delegation that came here from Victoria 02:27:49.120 --> 02:27:51.216 in the last century around Camden and 02:27:51.240 --> 02:27:53.656 they were here studying the planning of 02:27:53.680 --> 02:27:56.415 this town and its significant features 02:27:56.439 --> 02:27:59.439 to try and take that back to recreate in 02:28:00.240 --> 02:28:03.240 in country Victoria so our heritage is 02:28:04.520 --> 02:28:06.415 pretty much 02:28:06.439 --> 02:28:08.816 identified it needs protecting and it 02:28:08.840 --> 02:28:11.696 needs enhancing but yeah it's pretty 02:28:11.720 --> 02:28:14.696 much identified and we have got one only 02:28:14.720 --> 02:28:17.016 one really good study in recent times 02:28:17.040 --> 02:28:19.816 the 1990 Travis Partners study looked at 02:28:19.840 --> 02:28:22.096 the whole of Aral Street Heritage Aral 02:28:22.120 --> 02:28:25.016 street but then because we ran out of 02:28:25.040 --> 02:28:27.656 money I think what happened then was 02:28:27.680 --> 02:28:30.016 there was a blanket protection thrown 02:28:30.040 --> 02:28:32.776 over the Heritage Conservation Area and 02:28:32.800 --> 02:28:34.936 that has caused problems because 02:28:34.960 --> 02:28:37.816 specific Heritage items are not 02:28:37.840 --> 02:28:40.295 identified now the only way when you 02:28:40.319 --> 02:28:42.736 identify them to get them protected is 02:28:42.760 --> 02:28:44.776 to have them Heritage listed on a 02:28:44.800 --> 02:28:47.455 Heritage register and if I give you one 02:28:47.479 --> 02:28:50.415 example St John's on the top of John 02:28:50.439 --> 02:28:52.736 Street at the top of John Street was on 02:28:52.760 --> 02:28:55.056 the National Heritage register in other 02:28:55.080 --> 02:28:57.415 words it was significant to Camden it 02:28:57.439 --> 02:28:59.176 was significant to Colonial New South 02:28:59.200 --> 02:29:01.255 Wales it was significant to New South 02:29:01.279 --> 02:29:03.335 Wales as a whole and it was significant 02:29:03.359 --> 02:29:05.335 to this nation now I don't know which 02:29:05.359 --> 02:29:06.736 Parliament it was I've never bothered to 02:29:06.760 --> 02:29:08.176 find out because it was a stupid thing 02:29:08.200 --> 02:29:10.896 to do they they eliminated the problem 02:29:10.920 --> 02:29:12.816 of the Heritage register by abolishing 02:29:12.840 --> 02:29:15.295 the Heritage register and they passed 02:29:15.319 --> 02:29:17.896 responsibility for Heritage and listing 02:29:17.920 --> 02:29:20.656 Heritage items back to the States and 02:29:20.680 --> 02:29:23.576 what happened was in that transfer like 02:29:23.600 --> 02:29:25.056 no we're not doing it anymore you guys 02:29:25.080 --> 02:29:28.080 do it yourself was to get players listed 02:29:28.120 --> 02:29:31.120 the state tended to do so thematically 02:29:31.359 --> 02:29:33.856 and somewhere like St John's which had 02:29:33.880 --> 02:29:36.736 National significance got left off 02:29:36.760 --> 02:29:38.176 because everybody just thought well 02:29:38.200 --> 02:29:39.656 nobody's going to destroy that one it's 02:29:39.680 --> 02:29:41.896 always going to be protected and then it 02:29:41.920 --> 02:29:44.056 wasn't right there was a conservation 02:29:44.080 --> 02:29:46.936 plan of management from memory in 2004 02:29:46.960 --> 02:29:48.936 and then it went Kat it never went never 02:29:48.960 --> 02:29:50.856 went anywhere else and we're we're 02:29:50.880 --> 02:29:53.880 seeing the the sad you know effects of 02:29:53.920 --> 02:29:56.920 that in more recent most recent years so 02:29:58.240 --> 02:30:01.240 we are the most significant town on the 02:30:01.399 --> 02:30:04.255 Cberland plain we were and now we 02:30:04.279 --> 02:30:06.176 still are because of destruction of 02:30:06.200 --> 02:30:08.576 Heritage in other in other areas other 02:30:08.600 --> 02:30:10.616 mcari towns particularly we were never a 02:30:10.640 --> 02:30:13.640 mcor town we we are the first planned 02:30:15.120 --> 02:30:17.696 settlement in the whole of Colonial New 02:30:17.720 --> 02:30:19.776 South Wales in the whole of this nation 02:30:19.800 --> 02:30:22.800 that that's us and that's that area that 02:30:23.160 --> 02:30:26.160 Council mcen McLean is is endeavoring 02:30:26.439 --> 02:30:29.096 to have listed on the state Heritage 02:30:29.120 --> 02:30:32.120 register so that people can't come along 02:30:33.160 --> 02:30:36.160 and chip away at the edges of it chip 02:30:36.240 --> 02:30:38.295 away at buildings and we saw one 02:30:38.319 --> 02:30:40.656 destroyed here fairly recently that was 02:30:40.680 --> 02:30:43.680 a significant California Cottage big 02:30:44.399 --> 02:30:47.399 block prime target for for a developer 02:30:47.840 --> 02:30:50.335 to come and knock the whole thing down 02:30:50.359 --> 02:30:51.896 and they're going to put up something 02:30:51.920 --> 02:30:52.896 which I think is going to be an 02:30:52.920 --> 02:30:55.576 Abomination it's totally out of place in 02:30:55.600 --> 02:30:57.455 the Heritage Conservation Area it's out 02:30:57.479 --> 02:30:59.335 of place in the streetcape it's just out 02:30:59.359 --> 02:31:01.496 of place full stop exclamation mark and 02:31:01.520 --> 02:31:03.136 if that keeps happening that's my 02:31:03.160 --> 02:31:06.160 warning Bill if that keeps happening 02:31:06.399 --> 02:31:09.056 then everything that's significant and 02:31:09.080 --> 02:31:12.016 everything that people who know about it 02:31:12.040 --> 02:31:14.496 value and everything that people in the 02:31:14.520 --> 02:31:17.520 future will value and everything that 02:31:17.560 --> 02:31:20.056 we're going to have that will enhance 02:31:20.080 --> 02:31:22.776 out particularly economic viability is 02:31:22.800 --> 02:31:24.216 going to be gone and we're all going to 02:31:24.240 --> 02:31:26.216 look around in in amazement and say well 02:31:26.240 --> 02:31:28.736 what the hell happened there so we need 02:31:28.760 --> 02:31:31.696 to have the protection of the state 02:31:31.720 --> 02:31:34.720 Heritage register to actually make sure 02:31:35.800 --> 02:31:38.800 that what we have is identified first 02:31:39.439 --> 02:31:42.439 and then protected and enhanced and 02:31:43.600 --> 02:31:45.496 for people who think that that's a bad 02:31:45.520 --> 02:31:48.520 thing you actually can tap into money 02:31:49.160 --> 02:31:51.896 grants from state and federal to keep 02:31:51.920 --> 02:31:54.776 properties in pristine order if they are 02:31:54.800 --> 02:31:56.776 on those Heritage registers so that 02:31:56.800 --> 02:31:58.455 would be something that would Aid 02:31:58.479 --> 02:32:01.016 Council in maintaining that whole 02:32:01.040 --> 02:32:03.976 Heritage area for all its worth socially 02:32:04.000 --> 02:32:06.016 and economically and environmentally 02:32:06.040 --> 02:32:08.295 into the future thank you councelor are 02:32:08.319 --> 02:32:10.335 there any other speakers for the 02:32:10.359 --> 02:32:13.359 motion against the motion councelor 02:32:13.840 --> 02:32:16.840 Ferreri thank you Madame Mayor why 02:32:17.479 --> 02:32:20.056 while Council McLean's proposal to have 02:32:20.080 --> 02:32:21.576 and Township listed on the state's 02:32:21.600 --> 02:32:23.976 Heritage register may seem at first 02:32:24.000 --> 02:32:26.736 glance a great idea to preserve Our 02:32:26.760 --> 02:32:29.295 community's Heritage and historical 02:32:29.319 --> 02:32:31.616 character I find myself unable to 02:32:31.640 --> 02:32:33.295 support it for several practical and 02:32:33.319 --> 02:32:36.319 strategic reasons that weren't careful 02:32:36.359 --> 02:32:39.255 consideration firstly if the motion 02:32:39.279 --> 02:32:41.576 pertains specifically to the Camden Town 02:32:41.600 --> 02:32:43.936 Center the listing would likely have 02:32:43.960 --> 02:32:46.960 little to no impact on the 02:32:47.160 --> 02:32:49.176 operation on the operation of the 02:32:49.200 --> 02:32:50.856 planning control controls outlined by 02:32:50.880 --> 02:32:53.880 the low and midrise housing policy this 02:32:53.920 --> 02:32:55.816 policy does not directly apply to the 02:32:55.840 --> 02:32:58.696 candom town center itself but rather to 02:32:58.720 --> 02:33:01.295 the residential Zone land surrounding it 02:33:01.319 --> 02:33:03.696 the Heritage listing would not alter the 02:33:03.720 --> 02:33:06.720 policy's implications moreover to 02:33:06.880 --> 02:33:09.856 justify a request for State Heritage 02:33:09.880 --> 02:33:12.176 listing a comprehensive Heritage study 02:33:12.200 --> 02:33:15.016 of Camden Town Center would be essential 02:33:15.040 --> 02:33:18.040 as a point of reference in 2019 Camden 02:33:18.439 --> 02:33:20.496 commissioned a Heritage review of the 02:33:20.520 --> 02:33:22.616 Town Center to inform broader strategic 02:33:22.640 --> 02:33:24.455 initiatives including the local 02:33:24.479 --> 02:33:27.136 strategic planning statement that study 02:33:27.160 --> 02:33:29.056 cost approximately 02:33:29.080 --> 02:33:32.080 $150,000 and that was 6 years ago to 02:33:32.439 --> 02:33:34.335 pursue another such undertaking without 02:33:34.359 --> 02:33:36.896 a clear and pressing need will likely 02:33:36.920 --> 02:33:39.455 only result in similar findings at Great 02:33:39.479 --> 02:33:42.479 rate payers expense additionally Camden 02:33:43.479 --> 02:33:45.415 is also currently drafting a letter to 02:33:45.439 --> 02:33:47.216 the minister of planning and public 02:33:47.240 --> 02:33:50.216 spaces seeking ex an exemption 02:33:50.240 --> 02:33:52.536 from the low and midrise housing policy 02:33:52.560 --> 02:33:55.560 for both Camden and nent town centers a 02:33:55.760 --> 02:33:58.096 Heritage listing at this juncture could 02:33:58.120 --> 02:34:00.776 complicate or undermine those 02:34:00.800 --> 02:34:03.576 efforts I must also highlight the 02:34:03.600 --> 02:34:06.176 potential impact on small businesses and 02:34:06.200 --> 02:34:08.816 shopkeepers within the Town Center 02:34:08.840 --> 02:34:10.776 should the area be placed on Heritage 02:34:10.800 --> 02:34:13.375 register any alterations or maintenance 02:34:13.399 --> 02:34:16.136 to shopfronts would likely face St 02:34:16.160 --> 02:34:19.160 stringent Heritage controls this could 02:34:19.439 --> 02:34:21.295 Poss possibly add additional costs 02:34:21.319 --> 02:34:23.656 delays bureaucratic bureaucratic red 02:34:23.680 --> 02:34:25.936 tape to small businesses who are already 02:34:25.960 --> 02:34:28.960 doing it tough and finally I I have 02:34:30.439 --> 02:34:32.295 serious reservations that while this 02:34:32.319 --> 02:34:34.656 motion won't necessarily impact John 02:34:34.680 --> 02:34:36.896 Street upgrade as those works are 02:34:36.920 --> 02:34:39.920 developed permit without consent however 02:34:40.040 --> 02:34:42.896 any RAF would need to consider a state 02:34:42.920 --> 02:34:45.816 Heritage listing which would introduce 02:34:45.840 --> 02:34:48.496 another layer of assessment and no doubt 02:34:48.520 --> 02:34:50.656 delays for any work to 02:34:50.680 --> 02:34:53.056 begin thank thank you councelor are 02:34:53.080 --> 02:34:55.736 there any other speakers for the 02:34:55.760 --> 02:34:58.760 motion against Council I'll speak 02:34:59.240 --> 02:35:00.616 against this notice of motion this 02:35:00.640 --> 02:35:02.616 evening whilst I appreciate the 02:35:02.640 --> 02:35:03.856 efforts you're trying to make Council 02:35:03.880 --> 02:35:06.696 mlan my biggest sticking point is the 02:35:06.720 --> 02:35:08.375 fact that we have not defined the Camden 02:35:08.399 --> 02:35:10.496 Township whilst councel Campbell might 02:35:10.520 --> 02:35:12.016 be fine knowing exactly what that 02:35:12.040 --> 02:35:14.656 entails we are expecting our Council 02:35:14.680 --> 02:35:17.415 staff to make this application and when 02:35:17.439 --> 02:35:19.295 we've got generic terms like camp and 02:35:19.319 --> 02:35:22.319 town ship I find that I mean I know 02:35:22.640 --> 02:35:24.496 that there will be serious implications 02:35:24.520 --> 02:35:26.255 and significant 02:35:26.279 --> 02:35:29.279 implications that may fall on 02:35:29.760 --> 02:35:32.496 parts that you know perhaps councelor 02:35:32.520 --> 02:35:34.576 Campbell or councel mlan would not want 02:35:34.600 --> 02:35:37.600 included but fall under that category of 02:35:37.680 --> 02:35:40.680 Camden Township so on that basis alone I 02:35:40.920 --> 02:35:42.455 will not be supporting this notice of 02:35:42.479 --> 02:35:45.096 motion are there any other speakers 02:35:45.120 --> 02:35:48.120 for the notice of motion against do we 02:35:48.760 --> 02:35:50.936 have any questions 02:35:50.960 --> 02:35:52.936 C you have a question councelor 02:35:52.960 --> 02:35:55.696 Campbell yes 02:35:55.720 --> 02:35:58.536 I there are people sitting in this 02:35:58.560 --> 02:36:01.016 room myself included who could draw on 02:36:01.040 --> 02:36:03.776 the map exactly where the Heritage 02:36:03.800 --> 02:36:06.800 Township goes and I'm I'm asking are you 02:36:09.200 --> 02:36:12.200 aware that with a policy like the six 02:36:13.640 --> 02:36:16.375 story flat buildings coming in mandatory 02:36:16.399 --> 02:36:19.399 from the state that all along man road 02:36:20.240 --> 02:36:22.176 all the Heritage buildings there which 02:36:22.200 --> 02:36:25.200 are part of the Camden Township 02:36:26.240 --> 02:36:28.415 officially part of the Camden Township 02:36:28.439 --> 02:36:30.576 are prime targets for someone to come 02:36:30.600 --> 02:36:32.136 along knock them down and put a 02:36:32.160 --> 02:36:35.160 six-story flat building up this is are 02:36:35.359 --> 02:36:38.359 we aware of this this is why this is 02:36:39.200 --> 02:36:42.200 past the time when this should have been 02:36:42.880 --> 02:36:45.576 done if that question was directed at me 02:36:45.600 --> 02:36:46.976 yes I am aware of that which is 02:36:47.000 --> 02:36:49.576 precisely why as councelor Ferreri has 02:36:49.600 --> 02:36:52.096 indicated we are making representations 02:36:52.120 --> 02:36:54.455 to the minister for planning the 02:36:54.479 --> 02:36:56.536 other point I'd like to make is that it 02:36:56.560 --> 02:36:59.560 doesn't say historic Camden Township it 02:36:59.760 --> 02:37:02.536 says Camden Township councilor mlan 02:37:02.560 --> 02:37:05.560 your'll right of 02:37:05.760 --> 02:37:08.760 reply well I'd be very happy to add 02:37:09.840 --> 02:37:12.840 the word historic in if that was to 02:37:12.960 --> 02:37:15.415 make people feel better but I strongly 02:37:15.439 --> 02:37:18.439 suspect that there's other reasons 02:37:19.120 --> 02:37:21.496 for not supporting it if if that is what 02:37:21.520 --> 02:37:24.520 would GH other colleagues support 02:37:26.520 --> 02:37:29.520 I'd be very happy to put historic 02:37:29.600 --> 02:37:31.976 in and councilor Campbell as a second 02:37:32.000 --> 02:37:34.455 are you happy with that yes because I 02:37:34.479 --> 02:37:36.375 know where the historic town goes I'm 02:37:36.399 --> 02:37:39.255 glad you do thank you councelor mlan 02:37:39.279 --> 02:37:42.136 your right of reply thank you 02:37:42.160 --> 02:37:45.096 Madame Mayor I appreciate the discussion 02:37:45.120 --> 02:37:48.120 we' we've had and I further 02:37:51.200 --> 02:37:53.936 outline that yes there was 02:37:53.960 --> 02:37:56.656 comprehensive study done and review 02:37:56.680 --> 02:37:59.680 done of exactly what this this these 02:38:00.319 --> 02:38:02.896 these Heritage attributes how it meets 02:38:02.920 --> 02:38:05.920 criteria and the like was done 6 years 02:38:06.359 --> 02:38:09.359 ago that was 6 years ago things 02:38:09.760 --> 02:38:12.056 haven't really changed in six years 02:38:12.080 --> 02:38:14.455 except one thing and that is Camden is 02:38:14.479 --> 02:38:17.479 far far more significant six years later 02:38:17.720 --> 02:38:20.720 and in 60 years time it's going to be 02:38:20.920 --> 02:38:22.616 far far far more 02:38:22.640 --> 02:38:25.640 significant but probably eroded 02:38:27.640 --> 02:38:30.640 probably not visited and probably 02:38:32.520 --> 02:38:35.520 heavily urbanized and 02:38:36.600 --> 02:38:39.600 diminished it will probably be like 02:38:40.080 --> 02:38:43.080 penth Liverpool 02:38:43.200 --> 02:38:46.200 Richmond Campbell town plenty of other 02:38:46.359 --> 02:38:48.936 places which is a real shame so we've 02:38:48.960 --> 02:38:51.056 we've got a we've got a strategic 02:38:51.080 --> 02:38:54.080 Advantage a a limited onetime 02:38:56.720 --> 02:38:59.720 Special Value offer to customers to 02:39:00.439 --> 02:39:02.056 millions of people that are flying into 02:39:02.080 --> 02:39:04.295 an international destination only 02:39:04.319 --> 02:39:07.319 kilometers to the north so it is 02:39:08.399 --> 02:39:10.736 incredibly important that we do seek 02:39:10.760 --> 02:39:12.335 these exemptions under current 02:39:12.359 --> 02:39:14.616 legislation but it's longterm it needs 02:39:14.640 --> 02:39:17.335 to be long-term and strategic and we 02:39:17.359 --> 02:39:20.335 need to put C 02:39:20.359 --> 02:39:23.359 aside so that we can re reap those 02:39:23.800 --> 02:39:26.800 economic benefits for all businesses 02:39:26.840 --> 02:39:28.656 it will it'll enable new businesses 02:39:28.680 --> 02:39:31.295 to establish it'll continue the 02:39:31.319 --> 02:39:34.319 amazing events festivals culture that is 02:39:34.760 --> 02:39:36.936 already in pretty good shape in 02:39:36.960 --> 02:39:39.335 Camden and and provides an incredible 02:39:39.359 --> 02:39:42.216 experience for locals but visitors alike 02:39:42.240 --> 02:39:43.856 and it's about bringing those visitors 02:39:43.880 --> 02:39:46.375 to Town showing them what we're about 02:39:46.399 --> 02:39:48.536 giving them a good experience and making 02:39:48.560 --> 02:39:50.255 them love camp 02:39:50.279 --> 02:39:53.279 like we do as well so again I love 02:39:54.960 --> 02:39:57.960 Camden and I vote for Camden thank 02:39:59.399 --> 02:40:01.896 you thank you councelor mlan with that I 02:40:01.920 --> 02:40:03.896 put the motion forward all those in 02:40:03.920 --> 02:40:06.920 favor councelor Campbell councelor mlan 02:40:07.399 --> 02:40:10.016 councelor Siri those against councelor 02:40:10.040 --> 02:40:12.375 ryen councelor quel councelor Ferreri 02:40:12.399 --> 02:40:13.976 councelor Sicari Council F Delhi 02:40:14.000 --> 02:40:17.000 councelor Kagney the motion is 02:40:17.680 --> 02:40:20.680 lost councilors were on on to item 18 02:40:20.800 --> 02:40:23.176 now closure of meeting to the 02:40:23.200 --> 02:40:26.200 public the recommendation is on page 80 02:40:26.800 --> 02:40:28.415 that Council close the meeting to the 02:40:28.439 --> 02:40:30.856 media and public for reasons outlined in 02:40:30.880 --> 02:40:33.776 the report if members of the public 02:40:33.800 --> 02:40:35.335 would like to speak as to whether or not 02:40:35.359 --> 02:40:36.696 the meeting should be closed they need 02:40:36.720 --> 02:40:39.415 to have made an application to speak no 02:40:39.439 --> 02:40:42.335 applications have been received so I'll 02:40:42.359 --> 02:40:44.255 now ask for a move run second off for 02:40:44.279 --> 02:40:46.656 point two of the recommendation only 02:40:46.680 --> 02:40:48.415 that we close the meeting to the media 02:40:48.439 --> 02:40:50.455 and public to disc US Reports dealing 02:40:50.479 --> 02:40:52.536 with commercial matters in accordance 02:40:52.560 --> 02:40:55.560 with the provisions of sections 10 a2c 02:40:55.640 --> 02:40:58.640 and 10 A2 D1 of the Local Government Act 02:40:59.479 --> 02:41:02.479 1993 moved councelor Fedeli seconded 02:41:02.840 --> 02:41:05.136 councelor mlan councelor Fedeli would 02:41:05.160 --> 02:41:07.335 you like to speak to the motion anyone 02:41:07.359 --> 02:41:09.856 else with that I put the motion forward 02:41:09.880 --> 02:41:12.880 all those in favor unanimous thank 02:41:17.600 --> 02:41:20.295 you ladies and gentlemen I now ask as 02:41:20.319 --> 02:41:21.816 you're already in the process of doing 02:41:21.840 --> 02:41:24.176 to please vacate the chamber and we 02:41:24.200 --> 02:41:26.616 will now temporarily suspend live 02:41:26.640 --> 02:41:29.255 streaming once a decision has been made 02:41:29.279 --> 02:41:31.335 we will reopen the chamber continue the 02:41:31.359 --> 02:41:32.976 live stream and announce what has been 02:41:33.000 --> 02:41:36.000 passed thank 02:41:37.680 --> 02:41:40.680 you welcome back ladies and gentlemen 02:41:41.000 --> 02:41:42.976 the reports were discussed in a closed 02:41:43.000 --> 02:41:44.656 session of and Council passed the 02:41:44.680 --> 02:41:47.680 following motions item CC1 acquisition 02:41:48.160 --> 02:41:50.415 of land Elders Le that Council resolved 02:41:50.439 --> 02:41:53.439 to acquire Lot 2 dp12 02:41:53.920 --> 02:41:56.920 44705 as identified in the report 02:41:57.000 --> 02:41:58.816 resolve to acquire the land for an 02:41:58.840 --> 02:42:00.976 agreed purchase purchase price as 02:42:01.000 --> 02:42:03.255 outlined in this report authorized 02:42:03.279 --> 02:42:05.335 execution of the contract for sale and 02:42:05.359 --> 02:42:07.496 all necessary docents to be completed 02:42:07.520 --> 02:42:09.936 in council's power of attorney and 02:42:09.960 --> 02:42:11.936 resolve to make the appropriate budget 02:42:11.960 --> 02:42:14.960 adjustments and transfer from section 02:42:15.319 --> 02:42:18.319 711 to fund the acquisition item cc2 02:42:19.240 --> 02:42:21.216 acquisition of land Leppington that 02:42:21.240 --> 02:42:23.335 Council resolved to acquire proposed Lot 02:42:23.359 --> 02:42:26.359 2 in dp1 02:42:26.760 --> 02:42:29.760 29623 being part of Lot B in DP 3794 96 02:42:32.520 --> 02:42:35.136 as identified in the report that we 02:42:35.160 --> 02:42:36.736 resolved to acquire the land for the 02:42:36.760 --> 02:42:38.896 agreed purchase price as outlined in the 02:42:38.920 --> 02:42:41.255 report to classify the property on 02:42:41.279 --> 02:42:43.255 acquisition as Community Land under 02:42:43.279 --> 02:42:45.856 section 31 of the Local Government Act 02:42:45.880 --> 02:42:48.880 1993 and authorize execution for the 02:42:49.200 --> 02:42:50.856 contract of sale in all necessary 02:42:50.880 --> 02:42:53.176 docents to be completed under 02:42:53.200 --> 02:42:56.200 council's power of attorney and item cc3 02:42:57.279 --> 02:42:59.656 acquisition of land Elders Le that 02:42:59.680 --> 02:43:02.680 Council compulsory acquire compulsory 02:43:03.439 --> 02:43:05.856 acquire part of the property as 02:43:05.880 --> 02:43:07.656 described in this report property 02:43:07.680 --> 02:43:09.896 pursuant to section 02:43:09.920 --> 02:43:12.920 3771 h of the Local Government Act 1993 02:43:13.880 --> 02:43:15.576 make an application to the minister for 02:43:15.600 --> 02:43:16.976 local government through the office of 02:43:17.000 --> 02:43:19.736 local government pursuant to section 1 02:43:19.760 --> 02:43:22.760 872 of the Local Government Act 1993 for 02:43:23.840 --> 02:43:25.616 approval to acquire the land by 02:43:25.640 --> 02:43:28.640 compulsory post process by the issue of 02:43:28.680 --> 02:43:30.415 proposed acquisition notices to the 02:43:30.439 --> 02:43:32.736 owners of the property make an 02:43:32.760 --> 02:43:34.496 application to the governor through the 02:43:34.520 --> 02:43:36.496 office of local government under section 02:43:36.520 --> 02:43:38.976 19 of the land acquisition just terms 02:43:39.000 --> 02:43:42.000 compensation act 1991 for approval and 02:43:42.120 --> 02:43:45.120 Acquire The Land by compulsory process 02:43:45.319 --> 02:43:47.736 by by publication of an acquisition 02:43:47.760 --> 02:43:50.656 notice in the LG sorry in the New South 02:43:50.680 --> 02:43:53.216 Wales government Gazette and authorize 02:43:53.240 --> 02:43:55.216 the general manager or their delegate to 02:43:55.240 --> 02:43:57.616 finalize and execute all relevant 02:43:57.640 --> 02:43:59.816 docents relating to the acquisition of 02:43:59.840 --> 02:44:02.840 the land that concludes this evening's 02:44:02.960 --> 02:44:05.096 meeting thank you very much to all the 02:44:05.120 --> 02:44:07.176 members of the community that attended 02:44:07.200 --> 02:44:08.776 not just in the gallery tonight but of 02:44:08.800 --> 02:44:10.616 course online as well thank you 02:44:10.640 --> 02:44:12.255 councilors and Council staff for your 02:44:12.279 --> 02:44:15.279 time and we'll see you next month